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    Is All This Really Necessary?

    Inside the municipal garage of this small lakefront city, parked next to the hefty orange snowplow, sits an even larger truck, this one painted in desert khaki. Weighing 30 tons and built to withstand land mines, the armored combat vehicle is one of hundreds showing up across the country, in police departments big and small.

    The 9-foot-tall armored truck was intended for an overseas battlefield. But as President Obama ushers in the end of what he called America’s “long season of war,” the former tools of combat — M-16 rifles, grenade launchers, silencers and more — are ending up in local police departments, often with little public notice.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/09/us...partments.html

    Do our police have to be militarized? Is this what we want patrolling our streets?

    Is all this really necessary?

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    Re: Is All This Really Necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/09/us...partments.html

    Do our police have to be militarized? Is this what we want patrolling our streets?

    Is all this really necessary?
    No they don't, and they're getting a militant attitude and too big for their britches.
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    Re: Is All This Really Necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    No they don't, and they're getting a militant attitude and too big for their britches.
    Yeah, we need to give criminals the upper hand, keep the semi auto weapons in the hands of criminals, and just issue the cops .38 revolvers. </sarcasm off>

    I could tell a story about a Chicago cop and his partner going on a domestic call in Cabrini Green in the 1960's, but I'll spare people the drivel.

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    Re: Is All This Really Necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Yeah, we need to give criminals the upper hand, keep the semi auto weapons in the hands of criminals, and just issue the cops .38 revolvers. </sarcasm off>

    I could tell a story about a Chicago cop and his partner going on a domestic call in Cabrini Green in the 1960's, but I'll spare people the drivel.
    Yeah, the local police need a 30 ton military vehicle. Don't be silly.
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    Re: Is All This Really Necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Yeah, the local police need a 30 ton military vehicle. Don't be silly.
    No, they just need these.

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    Re: Is All This Really Necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    No, they just need these.

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    It would be fun to watch one of those rip the side of you house out, and see you crawl out crying like a baby. It would serve your right for voting for such draconian nonsense.
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    Re: Is All This Really Necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    It would be fun to watch one of those rip the side of you house out, and see you crawl out crying like a baby. It would serve your right for voting for such draconian nonsense.
    Hey, all they gotta do is say, come out with your hands up, and it's done.

    I don't deal drugs, takes drugs, or make them, I have nothing to fear.

    I have noticed lately that there must be many, many conservatives living in fear though, poor them. Must be living in hell having to look over their shoulders all the time wondering who's going to get them.

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    Re: Is All This Really Necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    Is all this really necessary?
    I certainly hope not.



    PS: Is anyone here on the town council with a police department that has bought such equipment? What is the thinking behind it?

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    Re: Is All This Really Necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/09/us...partments.html

    Do our police have to be militarized? Is this what we want patrolling our streets?

    Is all this really necessary?
    To an extent I’m sure it is. At the extreme (which any police department could face with little notice) many criminals are heavily armed or militarised.

    I think there is a bit of spin going on with this kind of thing anyway. So they’re getting vehicles that happen to be armoured. That in itself isn’t really the issue. I seems to me that the fact they’re ex-military vehicles is being used symbolically (and often in an exaggerated manner) as an easy, lazy way to attack the police in generic terms rather than putting in the time and effort needed to effectively challenge real issues of police procedures and tactics.

    Of course I’m sure some people are complaining just for the sake of it and whatever the military did with this equipment it no long has active use for would be deemed wrong and whatever the police obtained would be somehow inappropriate.

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    Re: Is All This Really Necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I certainly hope not.



    PS: Is anyone here on the town council with a police department that has bought such equipment? What is the thinking behind it?
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