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    Re: Is All This Really Necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by braindrain View Post
    I also mentioned sniper systems as well.
    So remove that. Bam, it's just a truck.

    And the whole point of this topic is the militarization of our police force and this is just another example of it.
    What makes it militarization of our police? The fact that this truck was used in battle? So what, it's just a truck. Should we just waste them? That is a waste of the tax payer money verses fiving them to police departments and they can use them. But oh mythey look scary. That is as stupid as that assault weapon bologna.
    If it was just the truck I doubt anyone would care. But sadly the truck is just another example.
    It is just a truck. which is why I don't understand why you care so much. Especially if it is demilitarized.

    Other than the armor what makes this thing any more than a truck.
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    Re: Is All This Really Necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    It says that law enforcement is considering the very real threat of some vets using their military knowledge once they get home. I've been in Mexico for a year now, and the Zetas Cartel did just that. Initially the majority of Zetas were special ops. Disenchanted with some of the things they saw, they turned their backs on the government that trained them and began using their military know how for some of the most brutal tactics.

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    If it has already happened in Mexico, it will happen eventually in the US. Being prepared for it doesn't mean people don't support the troops. It means they are getting ready for a very real possibility.
    Perhaps if there wasn't other evidence of "anti-vet" (for lack of a better term) sentiment coming from the government I wouldn't have such a problem with it.

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    Re: Is All This Really Necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    Perhaps if there wasn't other evidence of other "anti-vet" (for lack of a better term) sentiment coming from the government I wouldn't have such a problem with it.
    What "other" anti-vet sentiments are coming from the government?
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    Re: Is All This Really Necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    What "other" anti-vet sentiments are coming from the government?
    Hatuey, really, you've got to ask?

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    Re: Is All This Really Necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    What makes it militarization of our police? .
    Part of it is the drummed up hullabaloo that politicians and the press have created. It is a side effect from their asinine position on firearms.



    They can't have it both ways.

    This

    Is All This Really Necessary?-mp900184939-jpg

    and this

    Is All This Really Necessary?-270905police_state-jpg

    are both pics of police officers

    but obviously there is a different reaction one gets when looking at one versus the other.

    Just like in the video, there's no difference between one semi auto and another, but the one "looks scary". It looks scary so it should be banned.

    Well, people find the 2nd photo scary, they don't want that kind of presence in their community because they live in a 1st world country.

    You can't go having battle dressed police running around like this is Mogadishu.

    Kinda ruins that whole "Land of the Free" illusion we kid ourselves with...

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    Re: Is All This Really Necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Many innocent people with the same attitude have served prison time.
    You should stop being facetious, people might take you seriously.

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    Re: Is All This Really Necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    Part of it is the drummed up hullabaloo that politicians and the press have created. It is a side effect from their asinine position on firearms.



    They can't have it both ways.

    This

    Is All This Really Necessary?-mp900184939-jpg

    and this

    Is All This Really Necessary?-270905police_state-jpg

    are both pics of police officers

    but obviously there is a different reaction one gets when looking at one versus the other.
    You are using the same exact argument that is used against so called "assault weapons." You are talking about looks.

    Just like in the video, there's no difference between one semi auto and another, but the one "looks scary". It looks scary so it should be banned.
    Just like in the video, there's no difference between one officer and another, but the one "looks scary". It looks scary so it should be banned.

    I used the exact argument you did, but I changed one word, and it's absolutely true.

    Well, people find the 2nd photo scary, they don't want that kind of presence in their community because they live in a 1st world country.
    She exact argument against so called "assault weapons."

    You can't go having battle dressed police running around like this is Mogadishu.
    what does this have to do with the price of tea in China?

    Kinda ruins that whole "Land of the Free" illusion we kid ourselves with...
    Why because you can't dictate what the police can wear?
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    Re: Is All This Really Necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    You are using the same exact argument that is used against so called "assault weapons." You are talking about looks.
    I am but there is more to it, in this for instance I used the argument on assault weapons as an example of the government having one reaction on one issue based on superficial features (guns) and using the argument against the government on that issue (guns) to justify why the militarization of our police should be allowed.

    Just like in the video, there's no difference between one officer and another, but the one "looks scary". It looks scary so it should be banned.
    Right, good for the goose...

    I used the exact argument you did, but I changed one word, and it's absolutely true.
    I hope so, it's the same argument. Context is different, but same argument.

    She exact argument against so called "assault weapons."
    Right but one is an inanimate object that lacks cognisance.

    what does this have to do with the price of tea in China?
    Everything.

    Why because you can't dictate what the police can wear?
    If you think it is as simple as that than I don't think there is any more that I can say. The psychology behind it on both sides; police and civilian.

    The level of intimidation one feels in regards to one versus the other.

    Interesting that you left the last sentence of mine out which ties the entire post together providing context for you to infer meaning.

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    Re: Is All This Really Necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    I am but there is more to it, in this for instance I used the argument on assault weapons as an example of the government having one reaction on one issue based on superficial features (guns) and using the argument against the government on that issue (guns) to justify why the militarization of our police should be allowed.



    Right, good for the goose...



    I hope so, it's the same argument. Context is different, but same argument.



    Right but one is an inanimate object that lacks cognisance.



    Everything.



    If you think it is as simple as that than I don't think there is any more that I can say. The psychology behind it on both sides; police and civilian.

    The level of intimidation one feels in regards to one versus the other.

    Interesting that you left the last sentence of mine out which ties the entire post together providing context for you to infer meaning.
    you are a hypocrite. There is no difference between a man in a uniform and a man in tactical gear other than appearance. It's the same difference between an "assault weapon" and a rifle.
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    Re: Is All This Really Necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    you are a hypocrite. There is no difference between a man in a uniform and a man in tactical gear other than appearance. It's the same difference between an "assault weapon" and a rifle.
    No I'm not, but you take care now...

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