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    Re: Is All This Really Necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by braindrain View Post
    As I have said several times already it is not just this truck. Why are you having a hard time understanding that.
    You keep saying that, but the only thing you seem to mention that is different is that it was used in combat. Doesn't really matter where it's driven, it's still just a truck. Other than being armored what makes it not a truck?
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    Re: Is All This Really Necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I certainly hope not.



    PS: Is anyone here on the town council with a police department that has bought such equipment? What is the thinking behind it?
    You should have read the article...

    The Pentagon program does not push equipment onto local departments. The pace of transfers depends on how much unneeded equipment the military has, and how much the police request. Equipment that goes unclaimed typically is destroyed. So police chiefs say their choice is often easy: Ask for free equipment that would otherwise be scrapped, or look for money in their budgets to prepare for an unlikely scenario. Most people understand, police officers say.
    These excess vehicles are just another unintended consequence of wasting trillions on the Iraq war. Now you think we should waste even more money by scrapping this equipment instead of repurposing it?
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    Re: Is All This Really Necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by braindrain View Post
    No in many states and cities you can not. To try and pretend otherwise completely dishonest. For a cop you really seem to have a poor knowledge of the law.
    I know the law pretty well in my state (Texas) I can't work in other states so I don't see much point in knowing the law there.

    I have bought all of this stuff, looking before I was a peace officer, aside froma suppressor, I did so legally. Don't blame the police because some states step all over the second amendment. That is the legislature.
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    Re: Is All This Really Necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    You should have read the article...



    These excess vehicles are just another unintended consequence of wasting trillions on the Iraq war. Now you think we should waste even more money by scrapping this equipment instead of repurposing it?
    This is what Harris county has. They use it. But I costed a fortune. Free slightly used vehicles seem to be a better deal. They have people in their department that drove those trucks, andknow how they work.
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    Re: Is All This Really Necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    This was my post.
    This is the alteration you added.
    The red underlined bit is what you altered.
    That is not me altering what you wrote. It is me replying to what you wrote. Its in the middle of your post so you know which part i was refering to. That is why it is in bold. Pretty standard to do that on forums.

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    Re: Is All This Really Necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    I know the law pretty well in my state (Texas) I can't work in other states so I don't see much point in knowing the law there.

    I have bought all of this stuff, looking before I was a peace officer, aside froma suppressor, I did so legally. Don't blame the police because some states step all over the second amendment. That is the legislature.
    In many states and cities you can not. I was replying to a post where you said that citizens can buy anything LEOs have which is just not true. I was not blaming the cops for what citizens can and cannot buy.
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    Re: Is All This Really Necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    You keep saying that, but the only thing you seem to mention that is different is that it was used in combat. Doesn't really matter where it's driven, it's still just a truck. Other than being armored what makes it not a truck?
    I also mentioned sniper systems as well. And the whole point of this topic is the militarization of our police force and this is just another example of it. If it was just the truck I doubt anyone would care. But sadly the truck is just another example.

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    Re: Is All This Really Necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by braindrain View Post
    That is not me altering what you wrote. It is me replying to what you wrote. Its in the middle of your post so you know which part i was refering to. That is why it is in bold. Pretty standard to do that on forums.
    If you want to do that, you should, right after my words, type the following exactly as it appears [/QUOTE]

    It's not at all standard, I pissy on five different forums and most of them will give you an infraction for doing that. I have never seen anybody do that before, but to be a smart ass.
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    Re: Is All This Really Necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by braindrain View Post
    In many states and cities you can not. I was replying to a post where you said that citizens can buy anything LEOs have which is just not true.
    How would LEOs buy things if you can't legally buy them? They are governed by the same laws.
    I was not blaming the cops for what citizens can and cannot buy.
    But you are claiming they can buy things that are illegal for non police to have, I ask how? They are governed by the same law.
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    Re: Is All This Really Necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    You should have read the article...



    These excess vehicles are just another unintended consequence of wasting trillions on the Iraq war. Now you think we should waste even more money by scrapping this equipment instead of repurposing it?
    To a certain extent, yes. The fuel requirements alone is an aspect as well as what the weight of heavy vehicles does to roads and You do need improved training for military weapons to be safe in the hands of the police. I would want to see a couple of studies before I would want to make a final decision. But yes, I have seen many cases, where it turned out to have been the wrong decision to take the unresistant deal, almost a present.

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