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    Re: Is All This Really Necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    Why wouldn't they be trained to use the equipment?? ...and yes, it most certainly would have been an effective deterrent if deployed to the correct locations. The idea is to stop the fight from happening, not win it. We want the criminals to know that they will lose to the extent that they won't enter into the fight at all. THAT'S the goal. Not winning, but not fighting.
    I don't believe the taxpayer should be footing the bill for a piece of equipment that might be used only in a zombie attack. It's completely out of line, and nothing but testosterone and ego building for the LAPD.
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    Re: Is All This Really Necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    Yeah, yeah, the conservatives are the one's living in fear while the dumb ass democrat in office is arming very governmental agency he can to the teeth...





    Ze Germans are coming!!! ZE GERMANS ARE COMING!!!!.


    You've got a better chance of seeing that than the roving, armed, criminal posses who're ready to strike and take down poor unsuspecting police departments in Middle America at any moment. The whole thing is contrived.



    It sounds like some people on the far right might have picked the wrong side.

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    Re: Is All This Really Necessary?

    Policing and the military are wholly incompatible. The police job is to enforce laws, arrest alleged criminals and let the justice system sort things out. The military's job is to kill the enemy. The police are supposed to be part of the community in which they work they aren't supposed to act as an occupying army.

    Arming the police as if they were the military and giving them military style training is a disaster waiting happen - or in truth that is already happening
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    Re: Is All This Really Necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
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    Re: Is All This Really Necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Its just a truck, we make them. I hope every department buys two.
    The problem isn't the truck, its that the idiots driving it think they are part of the A team. There have already been situations where the LEO's bring armored vehicles into a non-violent routine situations and go around needlessly smashing them into things.

    There is nothing wrong with having more heavily armed police for extreme situations like the north hollywood shootout, but only if they are used in actual extreme situations. Instead, we have seen every wannabe Sheriff in the country treating this stuff like toys.

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    Re: Is All This Really Necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    The problem isn't the truck, its that the idiots driving it think they are part of the A team. There have already been situations where the LEO's bring armored vehicles into a non-violent routine situations and go around needlessly smashing them into things.

    There is nothing wrong with having more heavily armed police for extreme situations like the north hollywood shootout, but only if they are used in actual extreme situations. Instead, we have seen every wannabe Sheriff in the country treating this stuff like toys.
    Havent seen anyone mis use one yet. Maybe you could provide a link to a story? We were going to get one, but our local yokals lost an M16 that was given to them. So no more "military" surplus for the Melbourne PD.

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    Re: Is All This Really Necessary?

    The police don't need it. And shoot, most of this stuff has never really been used. It was built despite our military not needing. Because NOT building it means laying off union manufacturing employees.


    Seriously.


    Learn to military industrial complex, guys.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Is All This Really Necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    The thing has wheels you can drive it. Why wouldn't they drive it out there? What you posted makes no sense.
    I take it you have never driven an MRAP before and don't really know what you are talking about.
    It is not that they couldn't drive it just that it is a huge unwieldy vehicle with horrible blind spots. They are also horribly expensive to operate. Take it from someone who has spent a fair amount of time in one. No cop is going to want to drive around in one of these day in and day out. Hell they are to big to fit in parking spaces. Not to mention local citizens will get tired of it real quick.
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    Re: Is All This Really Necessary?

    Oh, and let's not forget...owning and not using it is also pretty expensive. Stuff not in use (but ready for use) must be maintained. $$$
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Is All This Really Necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Havent seen anyone mis use one yet. Maybe you could provide a link to a story? We were going to get one, but our local yokals lost an M16 that was given to them. So no more "military" surplus for the Melbourne PD.
    That picture comes from a swat raid in which the idiots driving the APC forgot to park it properly and it rolled down a hill and nearly crushed a mother and her child. The only arrest from said raid was for unpaid parking tickets.

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