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    Re: Should the TEA Party abandon the Gadsden Flag after the shooting in Vegas

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    >" One of the most famous flags of the American Revolution is the Gadsden flag, a coiled rattlesnake over the words “Don’t Tread On Me.” This flag has recently gained popularity again as a favorite symbol at many Tea Party rallies. Recently, several Marines in Connecticut asked the Legislature to fly the Gadsden flag above the Statehouse as a tribute to veterans, saying it was the original Marine Corps flag.

    First, a little history regarding the image of the rattlesnake is in order. At our nation’s founding there were some who wanted this creature to be the symbol of America. In 1775, the Continental Congress issued an order calling for five companies of Marines to be created. It was reported that some of the Marines that enlisted that month in Philadelphia carried drums painted yellow, emblazoned with a fierce rattlesnake coiled and ready to strike with 13 rattles, and sporting a motto “Don’t Tread On Me.” The Marines first mission was assisting the Continental Navy on a man-of-war, the Alfred, and three other ships in capturing arms and gunpowder from the British.

    In December of that year “An American Guesser” anonymously wrote to the Pennsylvania Journal “I observed on one of the drums belonging to the marines now raising, there was painted a Rattle-Snake, with this modest motto under it, ‘Don’t tread on me.’ As I know it is the custom to have some device on the arms of every country, I supposed this may have been intended for the arms of America.”

    This anonymous writer, having “nothing to do with public affairs” went on to speculate on why the rattlesnake might be chosen as a symbol for America. He said “the rattlesnake is found in no other quarter of the world besides America.” Furthermore, “she never begins an attack, nor once engaged, ever surrenders: she is therefore an emblem of magnanimity and true courage. … she never wounds till she is generously given notice, even to her enemy, and cautioned him against the danger of treading on her.”

    He also felt the 13 rattles on the flag were a symbol of unity, saying “one of those rattles singly, is incapable of producing sound, but the ringing of 13 together, is sufficient to alarm the boldest man living.” Many scholars now agree that this “American Guesser” was Benjamin Franklin.

    Regarding the flag itself, the Gadsden flag was named after its creator, Christopher Gadsden. He led the Sons of liberty in South Carolina in 1765 and was later made a colonel in the Continental Army. In 1775, while he was in Philadelphia, Gadsden was one of three members of the Marine committee to help outfit and man the Alfred and its sister ships.

    Esek Hopkins was chosen to be the commander-in-chief of the Navy by Gadsden and Congress. It is generally accepted that Gadsden presented Hopkins with the flag which he flew as his personal standard on the Alfred, because he felt it was important for the Commodore to have a distinctive personal standard.

    What is unclear is whether Gadsden took his inspiration from the Marines drums or whether he inspired it himself. In any event, both played an important historic role in portraying the rattlesnake as a symbol of America. The current Marine Corps emblem of the eagle, globe and anchor was officially adopted in 1868 by Brigadier General Jacob Zeilin..."<

    Is the Gadsden Flag the original Marine Corps flag? :: Northern Colorado Gazette

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    Re: Should the TEA Party abandon the Gadsden Flag after the shooting in Vegas

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    Re: Should the TEA Party abandon the Gadsden Flag after the shooting in Vegas

    Quote Originally Posted by voyager1 View Post
    Now that it has come out the shooters were supporters of Bundy, supporters to the TEA Party and laid a Gadsden flag on one of the dead officers they gunned down. Should the TEA party move away from the Gadsden flag?
    I think the tea party should come up with their own flag. Taking the flag from 1775 and pretending to be like a freaking militiaman of that era is stupid. This is the 21st century. It's not like we still have slaves, a billion acres of Indian lands or are fighting the British. Sheesh.

    But, if you're gonna copy, a flag like this:

    Would be pretty cool.

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    Re: Should the TEA Party abandon the Gadsden Flag after the shooting in Vegas

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    I think the tea party should come up with their own flag. Taking the flag from 1775 and pretending to be like a freaking militiaman of that era is stupid. This is the 21st century. It's not like we still have slaves, a billion acres of Indian lands or are fighting the British. Sheesh.

    But, if you're gonna copy, a flag like this:

    Would be pretty cool.
    Perhaps they view it as fighting their own government? Yep, I agree that flag or something like it would be pretty cool.
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    Re: Should the TEA Party abandon the Gadsden Flag after the shooting in Vegas

    Quote Originally Posted by voyager1 View Post
    Now that it has come out the shooters were supporters of Bundy, supporters to the TEA Party and laid a Gadsden flag on one of the dead officers they gunned down. Should the TEA party move away from the Gadsden flag?
    Huh ?

    So the flag killed those two cops ?
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    Re: Should the TEA Party abandon the Gadsden Flag after the shooting in Vegas

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Huh ?

    So the flag killed those two cops ?
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    Re: Should the TEA Party abandon the Gadsden Flag after the shooting in Vegas

    We've got all those cool flags going up here also.
    Last year in Northern Vermont I saw confeds, just like here in Red counties.
    My next door neighbor has a Confed flag on the bumper of his RV--they give away who they are .
    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Perhaps they view it as fighting their own government?
    One of the young guns backfired last night.
    Yep, I agree that flag or something like it would be pretty cool.
    I like the red-neck trucks with a couple of potatoes hanging as mountain oysters from the back-end .
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    Re: Should the TEA Party abandon the Gadsden Flag after the shooting in Vegas

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    We've got all those cool flags going up here also.
    Last year in Northern Vermont I saw confeds, just like here in Red counties.
    My next door neighbor has a Confed flag on the bumper of his RV--they give away who they are .

    One of the young guns backfired last night.

    I like the red-neck trucks with a couple of potatoes hanging as mountain oysters from the back-end .
    My Grandpa gave me a confederate battle flag when I left for Thailand back in 1966, I carried that thing to Thailand, Laos, Vietnam and back to Thailand and still have it hanging on the living room wall. Unlike most battle flags you see today, this one is a square. But I never had a bumper sticker with it on. These are my bumper stickers on my GMC.

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    Re: Should the TEA Party abandon the Gadsden Flag after the shooting in Vegas

    Quote Originally Posted by voyager1 View Post
    Now that it has come out the shooters were supporters of Bundy, supporters to the TEA Party and laid a Gadsden flag on one of the dead officers they gunned down. Should the TEA party move away from the Gadsden flag?
    No. That's silly. We haven't stopped listening to Wagner just because Hitler liked his operas.
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    Re: Should the TEA Party abandon the Gadsden Flag after the shooting in Vegas

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    I like the red-neck trucks with a couple of potatoes hanging as mountain oysters from the back-end .
    Like the illegal aliens who drive pickup trucks with a brahman bull painted on the side of the doors.

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