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Was George W Bush a good president?[W:439:621]

Was George W Bush a good president?


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Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

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Yep. The United States government, history, and reality back me up on that.



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Not only did you just present an opinion as fact, I'm pretty sure you even screwed up the faux-fact you were tryin to say by mixing up Bin Laden and Saddam.

Nope, SCOTUS stepped into a STATE election and overruled a STATE SUPREME COURT DECISION... Thus Dubya...
 
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Nope, SCOTUS stepped into a STATE election and overruled a STATE SUPREME COURT DECISION... Thus Dubya...

That was their job. The SCOTUS overturns the State courts all the time. Duh.
 
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Nope, SCOTUS stepped into a STATE election and overruled a STATE SUPREME COURT DECISION... Thus Dubya...

and the florida SCOFLAW ignored the findings of fact (now that was a real wake up call how corrupt those 7 Dem judges were) of SEVEN DIFFERENT COURTS THAT ALL RULE FOR BUSH

no court-Bush wins.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

You seem to be misinformed, were you one of the misinformed who voted for Obama ?

G.W. Bush is not a conservative, he's a neoconservative.

Do you know what a neoconservative is ? They use to be the liberal base of the Democrat Party.

You're definitely not a politico.
Actually, the Shrub was much more of a traditional conservative, the neocons, PNAC, was the Cheney/Wolfowitz/Rumsfeld cabal, who Shrub distanced himself from throughout his second term.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Nope, SCOTUS stepped into a STATE election and overruled a STATE SUPREME COURT DECISION... Thus Dubya...

The Federal Government has jurisdiction over federal elections, and the SCOTUS is the surpreme court in the land as it relates to things under federal jurisdiction. I'm sorry your dislike the method in which our government and court systems function...your dislike doesn't change reality.

Bush won the 2000 election, that is Fact....and in this case, I am actually using that word correctly.
 
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Sorry, I don't think the Vid means what you think it does. Kinda like Vids of Barney Frank out of context with Dubya's GSE's failures!

Who are you trying to convince other than yourself?
 
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Right, AFTER they had stopped the count? THREE days later they came out with the decision, lol


STATES RIGHTS?
 
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Right, AFTER they had stopped the count? THREE days later they came out with the decision, lol

STATES RIGHTS?

Yeah. States rights. What's confusing you?
 
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and the florida SCOFLAW ignored the findings of fact (now that was a real wake up call how corrupt those 7 Dem judges were) of SEVEN DIFFERENT COURTS THAT ALL RULE FOR BUSH

no court-Bush wins.


"the Florida Supreme Court ordered that the Circuit Court in Leon County tabulate by hand 9000 contested ballots from Miami-Dade County. It also ordered that every county in Florida must immediately begin manually recounting all "under-votes" (ballots which did not indicate a vote for president) because there were enough contested ballots to place the outcome of the election in doubt"

Bush v. Gore | The Oyez Project at IIT Chicago-Kent College of Law
 
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Right, AFTER they had stopped the count? THREE days later they came out with the decision, lol

So wait, I'm confused...are you "LOL"ing because you're now moving the goal posts over your idiotic comment and now falling back on conspiracy theories that it was "stolen" as opposed to suggesting he didn't win it?

You really need to get your hyper partisan bull**** talking points straight before you start pushing them, it's really hurting your attempt to foolishly engage in this conversation.

George W. Bush won the 2000 election. Once again, hate to break it to you, that's fact.

STATES RIGHTS?

EMANICPATION PROCOLOMATION!

GREEN BANANA'S!

TITTY SPRINKLES!

We are just yelling out random things right? That's what you were going for there? Or were you trying to make a point?
 
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There's a reason I have some people on IGNORE!
 
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Actually, the Shrub was much more of a traditional conservative, the neocons, PNAC, was the Cheney/Wolfowitz/Rumsfeld cabal, who Shrub distanced himself from throughout his second term.

How did "Shrub" come into this discussion ?

I don't even think Shrubnose has even chimed in on the thread.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

The Federal Government has jurisdiction over federal elections, and the SCOTUS is the surpreme court in the land as it relates to things under federal jurisdiction. I'm sorry your dislike the method in which our government and court systems function...your dislike doesn't change reality.

Bush won the 2000 election, that is Fact....and in this case, I am actually using that word correctly.

Federal elections are administered by state and local governments, although the specifics of how elections are conducted differ between the states. The Constitution and laws of the United States grant the states wide latitude in how they administer elections.

SCOTUS handed the election to Dubya... Small 'state right' CONservatives strike again, LIKE when Dubya fought ALL 50 states to invoke a rule from 1864 (Civil war era) on 'predatory' lending. I'm shocked you think the SCOTUS had ANY rights there

SCOTUS Bush V Gore

"Loathe to make broad precedents, the per curiam opinion limited its holding to the present case."

Bush v. Gore | The Oyez Project at IIT Chicago-Kent College of Law
 
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Federal elections are administered by state and local governments, although the specifics of how elections are conducted differ between the states. The Constitution and laws of the United States grant the states wide latitude in how they administer elections.

Wide latitude, but not soul dominion.

SCOTUS handed the election to Dubya

No, they handled the court case that determined Florida's electoral count.

Bush having the larger electoral total than Gore is what handed him the election.

[quoteI'm shocked you think the SCOTUS had ANY rights there[/quote]

Why? Because you're amazingly bigoted towards anyone with "conservative" listed as a lean and thus make prejudiced judgements on them based on hyperbolic stereotypes you've created in your head?

Federal Election. SCOTUS deemed they had authority to make the decision. SCOTUS made their decision. The electoral votes went to Bush. Bush had the larger total. Bush won the election. I'm sorry you're annoyed by facts...but a hyper partisans annoyance by fact doesn't make them non-existant.

Bush won the 2000 election.
 
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So wait, I'm confused...are you "LOL"ing because you're now moving the goal posts over your idiotic comment and now falling back on conspiracy theories that it was "stolen" as opposed to suggesting he didn't win it?

You really need to get your hyper partisan bull**** talking points straight before you start pushing them, it's really hurting your attempt to foolishly engage in this conversation.

George W. Bush won the 2000 election. Once again, hate to break it to you, that's fact.



EMANICPATION PROCOLOMATION!

GREEN BANANA'S!

TITTY SPRINKLES!

We are just yelling out random things right? That's what you were going for there? Or were you trying to make a point?


Nope, Bush was handed the election by SCOTUS. I get it, CONservarives don't like to look at the 2000 or 2004 votes. States rights was in regards to CONservative talking /smaller fed gov't, until it get's into our bedroom or wombs of course!
 
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Wide latitude, but not soul dominion.



No, they handled the court case that determined Florida's electoral count.

Bush having the larger electoral total than Gore is what handed him the election.

[quoteI'm shocked you think the SCOTUS had ANY rights there

Why? Because you're amazingly bigoted towards anyone with "conservative" listed as a lean and thus make prejudiced judgements on them based on hyperbolic stereotypes you've created in your head?

Federal Election. SCOTUS deemed they had authority to make the decision. SCOTUS made their decision. The electoral votes went to Bush. Bush had the larger total. Bush won the election. I'm sorry you're annoyed by facts...but a hyper partisans annoyance by fact doesn't make them non-existant.

Bush won the 2000 election.[/QUOTE]


Yes SCOTUS made their decisions


"Loathe to make broad precedents, the per curiam opinion limited its holding to the present case."

WEIRD RIGHT? LOL

Bush v. Gore | The Oyez Project at IIT Chicago-Kent College of Law

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Part of post 439 warning:
That has nothing to do with this extended discussion of Clinton.
May I disagree to the extent that when speaking of the Gulf war and decisions, that this has been an ongoing US problem since the time of carter, or earlier? Past decisions reflect to current happening. Even changing variables for the economy need relative comparisons at time.
 
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Wide latitude, but not soul dominion.



No, they handled the court case that determined Florida's electoral count.

Bush having the larger electoral total than Gore is what handed him the election.



Why? Because you're amazingly bigoted towards anyone with "conservative" listed as a lean and thus make prejudiced judgements on them based on hyperbolic stereotypes you've created in your head?

Federal Election. SCOTUS deemed they had authority to make the decision. SCOTUS made their decision. The electoral votes went to Bush. Bush had the larger total. Bush won the election. I'm sorry you're annoyed by facts...but a hyper partisans annoyance by fact doesn't make them non-existant.

Bush won the 2000 election.
My understanding of the court decision was the SC told Florida it had to follow it's own election laws, which made Bush the winner.
 
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How did "Shrub" come into this discussion ?

I don't even think Shrubnose has even chimed in on the thread.
Cute, you are going to get distracted from my pointing out that the Shrub was not a true Vulcan....because you are confused about W's various nicknames.

Next up..."What's a Vulcan?"....ie " I never saw a Bush era neocon called a Vulcan".
 
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My understanding of the court decision was the SC told Florida it had to follow it's own election laws, which made Bush the winner.

You mean 3 days AFTER SCOTUS it had stopped the count?

What SCOTUS did was although County's had many types of ballots, and couldn't use Coubty by County standards, chose to determine ALL County's most count the same way ... Bush argued and SCOTUS agreed, NOT all votes should be counted BEFORE the legality of them are determined!

The 4 SCOTUS Dissenters

"Counting every legally cast vote cannot constitute irreparable harm... Preventing the recount from being completed will inevitably cast a cloud on the legitimacy of the election"
 
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Part of post 439 warning:

May I disagree to the extent that when speaking of the Gulf war and decisions, that this has been an ongoing US problem since the time of carter, or earlier? Past decisions reflect to current happening. Even changing variables for the economy need relative comparisons at time.

Please do not quote even portions of in-thread warnings. If you have a concern, please PM a moderator. Thank you.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Saddam was not in charge of US foreign policy. Is it a good idea to allow people like him to control yer actions?

>>While I think the war was not the best idea, I can understand how it happened, and if Saddam wasn't such a thorn in the side of the WORLD, then maybe this would have never happened.

A thorn in the side can be preferable to some other alternatives. A terrible price has been and is being paid to remove that thorn.

I'm not sure what you mean by Saddam was not in charge of foreign policy. I'm aware of that. I'm just saying if he wasn't trying to fool people into THINKING he had WMD and let the inspectors in, there would have been no reason to go to Iraq, so in the end when all is said and done, the blame really lies with him.

Yes, and Saddam was a very bad and evil man. Though I don't like the fact that we had to sacrifice blood and money, I still think it's ultimately the best thing for everyone that he is gone.

I just hope Iraq doesn't slip back into pre-war Iraq.
 
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Something being weird doesn't cause it to cease existing, just as implying something stupid doesn't cause something to exist....like implying Bush didn't win the election in 2000.

You keep posting a link, but all that link keeps doing is confirming that Bush won the election.

I get it the right wing bubble where truth and facts are interchangeable to the rest of America is difficult to burst
 
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