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Was George W Bush a good president?[W:439:621]

Was George W Bush a good president?


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Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Yes, the one Cheney gave US as the cold war ended, like today's military is supposed to cost US less BECAUSE we aren't in a 'war'? You do know there was supposed to be benefits to winning the cold war right?

sure.. Hillary got a photo op and hit the "reset button"..what other benefit was there?... Putin as we know respects Liberals
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Yes, the one Cheney gave US as the cold war ended, like today's military is supposed to cost US less BECAUSE we aren't in a 'war'? You do know there was supposed to be benefits to winning the cold war right?

We won the cold war with the USSR, now there's a new one.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

BUSH'S RUN UP TO WAR? LOL Then what happened?

"The nature of the strikes differed; Clinton's bombings were part of what some dubbed a war of attrition, an attempt to degrade Hussein's hold on power without resorting to full-scale war, whereas Bush's bombings appear to have been part of a concerted effort to clear the way for a ground invasion."

Oh that explains it :(

sure does.. if one remembers Clinton declared Saddam an enemy and increased carpet bombing the same week as Lewinsky's sexual harrasment went publiic.. gee..
 
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Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

We won the cold war with the USSR, now there's a new one.

Hillary hit a "reset button".. nothing to see here..Putin is under control : )
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

sure does.. if one remembers Clinton declared Saddam and enemy and increased carpet bombing the same week as Lewinsky's sexual harrasment went publiic.. gee..

Did he invade? He declared much earlier than that Saddam was a bad guy. AND? You meant to say the sexual tryst Clinton had right?
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

We won the cold war with the USSR, now there's a new one.

Never ended. Just took a couple decades for them to reconfigure their economy :)
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Never ended. Just took a couple decades for them to reconfigure their economy :)

It ended, there was no arms race, which defined the cold war. This is with China and Russia now, it's different in my book but hasn't gotten as intense yet.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Did he invade? He declared much earlier than that Saddam was a bad guy. AND? You meant to say the sexual tryst Clinton had right?

Im saying Lewinsky is the victim of a serial sexual predator..in any other "workplace" Clinton would have been looking at being "fired"..
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Did he invade? He declared much earlier than that Saddam was a bad guy. AND? You meant to say the sexual tryst Clinton had right?

so you just like bombing and killing thousands innocent people over trumped up no fly zone nonsense...

hows Syria going for the Libs?
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

GWB gave Iraq FREEDOM.. OBama gave Iraq ISIS
Iraq was a relatively peaceful country until March 19,2003 when all HELL broke out. The dumber ****ers thought they would wavethe white flag because of this. Dumb ****ers, Dumb ****ers Dumb ****ers, Dumb ****ers

Shock And Awe

 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Absolute nonsense..

First, the Iraq resolution was bi-partisan and the whole " lied about WMD, blood for oil and Halliburton " nonsense was just a huge Democrat false narrative pushed out by the media to ensnare stupid people.

Plenty of Democrats believed Saddam had WMD and believed he was trying to expand his stockpile with nuclear capabilities and Halliburton's first " No Bid Contract" was actually given to them by Bill Clinton during his Kosovo Blue Dress diversion

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998



"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002


"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002


"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002


"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002



"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003



Giving " tax cuts to the rich " didn't cause any recession.:lamo:lamo Thats' so ridiculous.

The recession was caused by the collapse of the Sub-prime housing bubble. A bubble that was built via Democrat policies in the 90's that forced lenders to lower their standards via the threat of DOJ action.

Clinton also co-opted the GSE's and appointed his own corrupt Democrat buddies to their executive and chair positions. Franklin Raines was forced to leave Fannie Mae in 2004 after a SEC filing uncovered unprecedented amounts of corruption.

2 years later Fannie Mae was fined 400 Million dollars by the SEC and in 2011, both Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae were the subject of a new SEC investigation that accused the two Democrat protected GSEs of hiding massive amounts of worthless debt.

The CURRENT recession is just a continuation of the 2008 Financial crisis and has NOTHING to do with George Bush and EVERYTHING to do with the millions of idiots who equated platitudes and bumper sticker slogans with presidential qualifications in 2008 and in 2012.

Easily entertained and manipulated voters elected a media creation instead of a qualified leader and we as a Country have been struggling ever since.

The fact that YOU still blame Bush for our lousy economy 6 years in pretty much backs up my claims about the mentality of the average Obama voter and or Bush hater.

Keep living in the bubble. NONE of those Dems were the 'decider' that invaded Iraq on false premises AND no one forced the Banksters into a world wide credit crisis and made Bush fight all 50 states on predatory lenders, ignore regulator warnings or push his 'home ownership society'; while ignoring standards hitting the ground!

Regulators and policymakers enabled this process at virtually every turn. Part of the reason they failed to understand the housing bubble was willful ignorance: they bought into the argument that the market would equilibrate itself. In particular, financial actors and regulatory officials both believed that secondary and tertiary markets could effectively control risk through pricing.


http://www.tobinproject.org/sites/tobinproject.org/files/assets/Fligstein_Catalyst of Disaster_0.pdf
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

The liberal revisionist have a lot on their table to deal with.

Nope, Fenton just gave US a WHOLE lot of revision with those Dems and cherry picking things to do with the Bush great recession...
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

sure does.. if one remembers Clinton declared Saddam an enemy and increased carpet bombing the same week as Lewinsky's sexual harrasment went publiic.. gee..

Did he invade? He declared much earlier than that Saddam was a bad guy. AND? You meant to say the sexual tryst Clinton had right?

Moderator's Warning:
Please stop this derailing. The topic is: Was George Bush a good president?

That has nothing to do with this extended discussion of Clinton. Nor other posters. Take that to another thread.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

I see the warning and have nothing left to say
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

LOL !!

No you're very wrong.

Housing under Bush shot up only 1 percent, and a fraction of that was Sub-Prime.

The vast majority of worthless loans were made under Clinton as Housing shot up from 63 percent in 1993 to 68 percent in 2000.

Tax cuts were extended out to everyonex not just " the rich" amd are you seriously STILL blaming Bush 6 years into a Progressives Presidents term ?



HOUSEHOLD DEBT DOUBLED UNDER BUSH THOUGH...

The American mortgage market was about $1 trillion a year. The real surge in the mortgage market began in 2001 (the year of the stock market crash). From 2000 -2004, residential originations the U.S. climbed from about $1trillion to almost $4 trillion.

About 70% of this rise was accounted for by people refinancing their conventional mortgages at lower interest rates

http://www.tobinproject.org/sites/tobinproject.org/files/assets/Fligstein_Catalyst of Disaster_0.pdf


TRY AGAIN


The "turmoil in financial markets clearly was triggered by a dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for U.S. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004 and extending into 2007," the President's Working Group on Financial Markets OCT 2008
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

I see the warning and have nothing left to say
Peace for the Iraqis... There were no al Qaida before we invaded, now they are all over the place. President Bush failed when he ignored the August 6, 2001 PDB ( That's Presidential Daily Brief for those of you from Rio Linda)
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Peace for the Iraqis... There were no al Qaida before we invaded, now they are all over the place. President Bush failed when he ignored the August 6, 2001 PDB ( That's Presidential Daily Brief for those of you from Rio Linda)

And the other 40+ CIA/PDB's mentioning the Al Quaeda intent on attacking US in the 'homeland'...
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Im saying Lewinsky is the victim of a serial sexual predator..in any other "workplace" Clinton would have been looking at being "fired"..

Yes, Bush would be looking at getting a bonus for his time as Prez right?

David Stockman, Ex-Reagan Budget Director: George W. Bush's Policies Bankrupt The Country

“(Reagan’s deficit policies) allowed George W. Bush to dive into the deep end, bankrupting the nation through two misbegotten and unfinanced wars, a giant expansion of Medicare and a tax-cutting spree for the wealthy that turned K Street lobbyists into the de facto office of national tax policy,” Stockman wrote.

David Stockman, Ex-Reagan Budget Director: George W. Bush's Policies Bankrupt The Country


Of course in CONservative world, giving US 4 straight surpluses and the longest economic expansion on record with 22+ million jobs is created is dismissed because someone got a BJ

BUT BUSH GOES TO 2 UNFUNDED WARS, GIVES US 2 UNFUNDED TAX CUTS THAT DESTROY US REVENUES (taking it to Korean war levels) GIVES US UNFUNDED MEDICARE EXPANSION, IGNORES WARNINGS ON 9/11 BUT THAT GUY DID A GOOD JOB? lol
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Iraq was a relatively peaceful country until March 19,2003 when all HELL broke out. The dumber ****ers thought they would wavethe white flag because of this. Dumb ****ers, Dumb ****ers Dumb ****ers, Dumb ****ers

Shock And Awe



Greeting US like liberators, flowers and candy *shaking head*
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

exactly.. Clinton like Obama do not have the guts to try to sway hearts and minds on the ground.. wars are about their popularity here .. and Obama is only worred about how to LOSE our Gains

Yeah, Bush had guts, with other peoples kids and other peoples money... To bad he didn't have any common sense or good advisers!
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Nope, Fenton just gave US a WHOLE lot of revision with those Dems and cherry picking things to do with the Bush great recession...

Think "Community Reinvestment Act"

Sub prime loans

ACORN and community activist forcing lenders to approve sub prime loans.

Don't forget Rep. Barney Frank (D), Freddie and Fannie are in great shape.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Think "Community Reinvestment Act"

Sub prime loans

ACORN and community activist forcing lenders to approve sub prime loans.

Don't forget Rep. Barney Frank (D), Freddie and Fannie are in great shape.


Got it, ALL the right wing talking points devoid of reasoning, logic or honesty



The "turmoil in financial markets clearly was triggered by a dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for U.S. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004 and extending into 2007," the President's Working Group on Financial Markets OCT 2008



Right-wingers Want To Erase How George Bush's "Homeowner Society" Helped Cause The Economic Collapse

2004 Republican Convention:

Another priority for a new term is to build an ownership society, because ownership brings security and dignity and independence.
...

Thanks to our policies, home ownership in America is at an all- time high.

(APPLAUSE)

Tonight we set a new goal: 7 million more affordable homes in the next 10 years, so more American families will be able to open the door and say, "Welcome to my home."



Most subprime lenders weren't subject to federal lending law

Community Reinvestment Act, blamed for home market crash, didn't apply to the banks that did the most lending.
Most subprime lenders weren't subject to federal lending law - The Orange County Register



DUBYA FOUGHT ALL 50 STATE AG'S IN 2003, INVOKING A CIVIL WAR ERA RULE SAYING FEDS RULE ON "PREDATORY" LENDERS!

Eliot Spitzer - Predatory Lenders' Partner in Crime


Dubya was warned by the FBI of an "epidemic" of mortgage fraud in 2004. He gave them less resources.

FBI saw threat of loan crisis - Los Angeles Times



Later in 2004 Dubya allowed the leverage rules to go from 12-1 to 33-1 which flooded the market with cheap money!

The SEC Rule That Broke Wall Street



Bush drive for home ownership fueled housing bubble


He insisted that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac meet ambitious new goals for low-income lending.


June 17, 2004

(CNN/Money) - Home builders, realtors and others are preparing to fight a Bush administration plan that would require Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to increase financing of homes for low-income people, a home builder group said Thursday.

Home builders fight Bush's low-income housing - Jun. 17, 2004


BARNEY? MINORITY MEMBER OF THE GOP MAJORITY HOUSE 1995-2007 WHERE SIMPLE MAJORITY RULED? WHAT SUPER POWERS DID HE HAVE?

Jun 16, 2005


The worldwide rise in house prices is the biggest bubble in history. Prepare for the economic pain when it pops

According to estimates by The Economist, the total value of residential property in developed economies rose by more than $30 trillion over the past five years, to over $70 trillion, an increase equivalent to 100% of those countries' combined GDPs.


The global housing boom: In come the waves | The Economist


YEAH, ACORN, CRA AND BARNEY *SHAKING HEAD*

IT WAS A BUSH REGULATOR ISSUE IN THE US AS HE WAS THE HEAD CHEERLEADER FOR THE BANKSTERS




Regulators and policymakers enabled this process at virtually every turn. Part of the reason they failed to understand the housing bubble was willful ignorance: they bought into the argument that the market would equilibrate itself. In particular, financial actors and regulatory officials both believed that secondary and tertiary markets could effectively control risk through pricing.


http://www.tobinproject.org/sites/tobinproject.org/files/assets/Fligstein_Catalyst of Disaster_0.pdf
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Chris Mathews is that you? I saw some spittle on your name.

Hey, YOU had the rose colored glasses of BushCo...Isn't that the topic of the thread?
 
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