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Was George W Bush a good president?[W:439:621]

Was George W Bush a good president?


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Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

I can think of something that happened in 2001 that was more than "a small crisis". It also had a GREAT deal to do with the economic downturn.

SERIOUSLY? 7 YEARS LATER? lol

The "turmoil in financial markets clearly was triggered by a dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for U.S. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004 and extending into 2007," the President's Working Group on Financial Markets OCT 2008
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

he was/is the best President we had POST 9/11 ..when he had to clean up Clinton mess of not prosecuting the FIRST WTC attack as and act of war..which led to 9/11 and the loss of so many..

on 9/11 Obama would have attacked the GOP and then put the white flag up on the remains of the WTC... scary to even think of Obama being our President on 9/11 with the brain thrust of Biden and Jarret surrounding "the 5 pound workout king"

that would have been great for the American people at that time of loss

Yeah, prosecuting the terrorists would have stopped Bush from ignoring 40+ CIA warnings from the CIA/PDB's *shaking head*
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Clinton and his administration said Iraq had WMDs. So did many high ranking Democrats.

AND none DECIDED to invade Iraq on false premises. Go figure
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Your statements are factually wrong. It was Clinton who signed a law calling for regime change in Iraq. Bush accepted Clinton's analysis of Iraq and continued Clinton's policy using more effective means. Stop trying to divorce the Democrats from the war. They agreed with the rationale for it and many of them voted for it. They own it as much as anyone. As for Bush's other intiatives, they are still in effect and supported by the current President including the Patriot Act and other counterterrism policies.

Sorry, Clinton WASN'T the decider AND 60% of Dems voted against Bush's war of choice in Congress!
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Thank God we had a President like Bush when 9/11 happened. The 9/11 attack changed the whole world that day, and Bush didn't even blame a video for three weeks. The troops that go into harms way surely respected Bush more than Obama, and that was proven very recently at West Point. Those "tax cuts to the super rich" must not have been so horrible if our current President kept them in place. Those "unpatriotic" Debt Ceiling raises must not have been so horrible if our current President wanted them also.

Rush is that you?
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

About 100,000 Iraqis died in Bush's war in Iraq.

Right now the relatives and fellow tribesmen of those people are looking for some payback.

Think about it.

Iraq has about the same population as California, 100,000+ deaths and right wingers can't put in perspective what would happen after Bush invaded on false premises *shaking head*
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Yeah, prosecuting the terrorists would have stopped Bush from ignoring 40+ CIA warnings from the CIA/PDB's *shaking head*

again.. Clinton didnt prosecute as a war.. Clinton did nothing..

are you aware the WTC was attacked prior to 9/11?
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Iraq has about the same population as California, 100,000+ deaths and right wingers can't put in perspective what would happen after Bush invaded on false premises *shaking head*

the war was legal.. Clintons carpet bombing was not..
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

You don't know a wit about the body armor issue, okay? There is a lot more to that story, then whether someone shipped out armor or not. Much has to do with Clinton on this as well. Advancement in armor is base on R&D spending. Clinton budget cuts had a great deal to do with many technology areas suffering later on when the war started. Lightweight body armor is specific to the threat they are designed for. Threats changed, and tons of vendors were involved in building it. Quality control also plays a big part, and was affected by the fact that armor systems were being built 24/7 and that the designed had to change based on changed in enemy tactics that made it very difficult to keep up. You can't rev up R&D one day have have production armor the next, and that's what happened.

So your statement taken into the correct context is total bull****, and unsubstantiated.

CLINTON CUTS?

Cheney was Secretary of Defense from 1988 to 1992, he cut the army troop levels by a whopping 25% and cut the military budget annually as much as Congress is doing this year:

“Over Cheney’s four years as secretary of defense, encompassing budgets for fiscal years 1990-93, DoD’s total obligational authority in current dollars declined from $291.3 billion to $269.9 billion. Except for FY 1991, when the TOA budget increased by 1.7 percent, the Cheney budgets showed negative real growth: -2.9 percent in 1990, -9.8 percent in 1992, and -8.1 percent in 1993. During this same period total military personnel declined by 19.4 percent, from 2.202 million in FY 1989 to 1.776 million in FY 1993. The Army took the largest cut, from 770,000 to 572,000–25.8 percent of its strength.”

Those cuts came because of the end of the Cold War with the Soviet Union. When wars wind up, Mr. Cheney, military budgets wind down, as you yourself demonstrated.

Dick Cheney Broke US Military, now blames Obama for Cuts | Informed Comment
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

AND none DECIDED to invade Iraq on false premises. Go figure

Clinton carpet bombed and killed thoussands.. of inocent people
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

the war was legal.. Clintons carpet bombing was not..

Legal? So when did the GOP prosecute Clinton for 'carpet bombing'?
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Iraq has about the same population as California, 100,000+ deaths and right wingers can't put in perspective what would happen after Bush invaded on false premises *shaking head*

GWB gave Iraq FREEDOM.. OBama gave Iraq ISIS
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

again.. Clinton didnt prosecute as a war.. Clinton did nothing..

are you aware the WTC was attacked prior to 9/11?


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1996 In Review: U.S. Fought Terrorism At Home And Abroad
The Covert Hunt for bin Laden
Backgrounder On Clinton No.1 Priority On Terrorism at G-7 Summit
Bill Clinton Terror Rumor Debunked
Clinton at UN focuses on Terrorism
Clinton Urges Anti-terrorism Action
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House approves $29 billion anti-terror bill
Clinton Seeks Anti-Terrorism Aid
Clinton signs airport security measures into law
Clinton Targets Terrorism
Clinton's Letter to Congress on Freezing of bin Ladin Assets
Combatting Terrorism
Former envoys : Clinton gave Taliban evidence on bin Laden
President Clinton's Speech on Terrorist Attacks
President Swears to Use 'All Tools' Against Terrorism
U.S. Froze $254 Million In Taliban Cash in 1999
White House Commission on Aviation Safety and Security
The DOT Status Report
White House Fact Sheet on Counter-terrorism Measures
Don't blame it on Bill Clinton
Clinton's Compartments
The Usual Suspect
Clinton Backs Cyber-Terror Warnings
1996 Anti-terrorism Act
Republicans Watered Down 1996 Clinton Anti-Terrorism Bill
Thanks to Lott & Hatch
Clinton backs tech war on terror

Bill Clinton's Anti-Terrorism Measures



"Clinton's advisors met nearly weekly on how to stop bin Laden ...I didn't detect that kind of focus from the Bush adminsitration."
Two Star General Donald Kerrick

"I don't believe any longer that it's a matter of connecting the dots. I think they had a veritable blueprint and we want to know why they didn't act on it."
Senator Arlen Specter (R-pa) (ON THE BUSH ADMIN)

"Of course Bush knew about the impending attacks on America . He did nothing to warn the American people, because he needed this war on terrorism. His daddy had Saddam and he needed Osama. His presidency was going nowhere. He wasn't elected by the American people, but placed in the Oval Office by the conservative Supreme Court; the economy was sliding into the usual Republican pits and he needed something to hang his presidency on. This guy is a joke. His silence was sleazy and contemptible."
Lt.Colonel Steve Butler
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Clinton Administration Counter Terrorism Initiative

Bill Clinton's Anti-Terrorism Measures

Former president offers approach for terrorism fight
Clinton proposes huge police buildup
1996 In Review: U.S. Fought Terrorism At Home And Abroad
The Covert Hunt for bin Laden
Backgrounder On Clinton No.1 Priority On Terrorism at G-7 Summit
Bill Clinton Terror Rumor Debunked
Clinton at UN focuses on Terrorism
Clinton Urges Anti-terrorism Action
Clinton seeks $1 billion to fight terrorism
House approves $29 billion anti-terror bill
Clinton Seeks Anti-Terrorism Aid
Clinton signs airport security measures into law
Clinton Targets Terrorism
Clinton's Letter to Congress on Freezing of bin Ladin Assets
Combatting Terrorism
Former envoys : Clinton gave Taliban evidence on bin Laden
President Clinton's Speech on Terrorist Attacks
President Swears to Use 'All Tools' Against Terrorism
U.S. Froze $254 Million In Taliban Cash in 1999
White House Commission on Aviation Safety and Security
The DOT Status Report
White House Fact Sheet on Counter-terrorism Measures
Don't blame it on Bill Clinton
Clinton's Compartments
The Usual Suspect
Clinton Backs Cyber-Terror Warnings
1996 Anti-terrorism Act
Republicans Watered Down 1996 Clinton Anti-Terrorism Bill
Thanks to Lott & Hatch
Clinton backs tech war on terror

Bill Clinton's Anti-Terrorism Measures



"Clinton's advisors met nearly weekly on how to stop bin Laden ...I didn't detect that kind of focus from the Bush adminsitration."
Two Star General Donald Kerrick

"I don't believe any longer that it's a matter of connecting the dots. I think they had a veritable blueprint and we want to know why they didn't act on it."
Senator Arlen Specter (R-pa) (ON THE BUSH ADMIN)

"Of course Bush knew about the impending attacks on America . He did nothing to warn the American people, because he needed this war on terrorism. His daddy had Saddam and he needed Osama. His presidency was going nowhere. He wasn't elected by the American people, but placed in the Oval Office by the conservative Supreme Court; the economy was sliding into the usual Republican pits and he needed something to hang his presidency on. This guy is a joke. His silence was sleazy and contemptible."
Lt.Colonel Steve Butler


The U.S.-led coalition in Iraq dropped far more bombs during the sunset of Bill Clinton�s presidency than under President George W. Bush in the run-up to war in Iraq, RAW STORY has found.

Between 1999 and 2001, the U.S. and British-led air forces in Iraq dropped 1.3 million pounds of bombs in response to purported violations of the no-fly zones and anti-aircraft fire from Saddam Hussein.

The details of the bombings, provided by the British ministry of defense to parliament in February 2002, markedly revise a picture painted by critics of Bush�s airstrikes and that of a piece RAW STORY carried last week.

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The nature of the strikes differed; Clinton�s bombings were part of what some dubbed a �war of attrition,� an attempt to degrade Hussein�s hold on power without resorting to full-scale war, whereas Bush�s bombings appear to have been part of a concerted effort to clear the way for a ground invasion.

A sweeping attack, conducted in January of 1999, rained down 25 missiles on Iraqi soil, killing civilians. Clinton said the attack was in response to four planes violating the no-fly zones.

Clinton and British Prime Minister Tony Blair authorized air strikes on more than 100 days in 1999, sometimes several times per day. The bombings were ostensibly in response to Hussein�s refusal to allow UN weapons inspectors into the country, though critics alleged the move was aimed at deflecting attention from impeachment

The Raw Story | Clinton bombing of Iraq far exceeded Bush's in run-up to war; Bush 'spikes of activity' questioned
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Clinton Administration Counter Terrorism Initiative

Bill Clinton's Anti-Terrorism Measures

Former president offers approach for terrorism fight
Clinton proposes huge police buildup
1996 In Review: U.S. Fought Terrorism At Home And Abroad
The Covert Hunt for bin Laden
Backgrounder On Clinton No.1 Priority On Terrorism at G-7 Summit
Bill Clinton Terror Rumor Debunked
Clinton at UN focuses on Terrorism
Clinton Urges Anti-terrorism Action
Clinton seeks $1 billion to fight terrorism
House approves $29 billion anti-terror bill
Clinton Seeks Anti-Terrorism Aid
Clinton signs airport security measures into law
Clinton Targets Terrorism
Clinton's Letter to Congress on Freezing of bin Ladin Assets
Combatting Terrorism
Former envoys : Clinton gave Taliban evidence on bin Laden
President Clinton's Speech on Terrorist Attacks
President Swears to Use 'All Tools' Against Terrorism
U.S. Froze $254 Million In Taliban Cash in 1999
White House Commission on Aviation Safety and Security
The DOT Status Report
White House Fact Sheet on Counter-terrorism Measures
Don't blame it on Bill Clinton
Clinton's Compartments
The Usual Suspect
Clinton Backs Cyber-Terror Warnings
1996 Anti-terrorism Act
Republicans Watered Down 1996 Clinton Anti-Terrorism Bill
Thanks to Lott & Hatch
Clinton backs tech war on terror

Bill Clinton's Anti-Terrorism Measures



"Clinton's advisors met nearly weekly on how to stop bin Laden ...I didn't detect that kind of focus from the Bush adminsitration."
Two Star General Donald Kerrick

"I don't believe any longer that it's a matter of connecting the dots. I think they had a veritable blueprint and we want to know why they didn't act on it."
Senator Arlen Specter (R-pa) (ON THE BUSH ADMIN)

"Of course Bush knew about the impending attacks on America . He did nothing to warn the American people, because he needed this war on terrorism. His daddy had Saddam and he needed Osama. His presidency was going nowhere. He wasn't elected by the American people, but placed in the Oval Office by the conservative Supreme Court; the economy was sliding into the usual Republican pits and he needed something to hang his presidency on. This guy is a joke. His silence was sleazy and contemptible."
Lt.Colonel Steve Butler

thanks for proving my point.. Clinton did not proescute as a WAR and did nothing.. facts show this and prove my point... thanks for your help to prove my point..
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Yep.

Clinton probably created the vile hatred towards the USA that produced the current terrorists.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

thansk for proving my point.. Clinton did not pproescute as WAR and did nothing.. facts show this and prove my point

Right, because GOP fought EVERYTHING he wanted to do. Weird you don't understand that...
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Right, because GOP fought EVERYTHING he wanted to do. Weird you don't understand that...

no that was Barry Obama Soetero that fought everything that GWB put in place with the HSA.. now Obama takes credit for it..
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

CLINTON CUTS?

Cheney was Secretary of Defense from 1988 to 1992, he cut the army troop levels by a whopping 25% and cut the military budget annually as much as Congress is doing this year:

“Over Cheney’s four years as secretary of defense, encompassing budgets for fiscal years 1990-93, DoD’s total obligational authority in current dollars declined from $291.3 billion to $269.9 billion. Except for FY 1991, when the TOA budget increased by 1.7 percent, the Cheney budgets showed negative real growth: -2.9 percent in 1990, -9.8 percent in 1992, and -8.1 percent in 1993. During this same period total military personnel declined by 19.4 percent, from 2.202 million in FY 1989 to 1.776 million in FY 1993. The Army took the largest cut, from 770,000 to 572,000–25.8 percent of its strength.”

Those cuts came because of the end of the Cold War with the Soviet Union. When wars wind up, Mr. Cheney, military budgets wind down, as you yourself demonstrated.

Dick Cheney Broke US Military, now blames Obama for Cuts | Informed Comment

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See that dip between 1990 and 2000?
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Yep.

Clinton probably created the vile hatred towards the USA that produced the current terrorists.



exactly.. Clinton like Obama do not have the guts to try to sway hearts and minds on the ground.. wars are about their popularity here .. and Obama is only worred about how to LOSE our Gains
 
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Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

The U.S.-led coalition in Iraq dropped far more bombs during the sunset of Bill Clinton�s presidency than under President George W. Bush in the run-up to war in Iraq, RAW STORY has found.

Between 1999 and 2001, the U.S. and British-led air forces in Iraq dropped 1.3 million pounds of bombs in response to purported violations of the no-fly zones and anti-aircraft fire from Saddam Hussein.

The details of the bombings, provided by the British ministry of defense to parliament in February 2002, markedly revise a picture painted by critics of Bush�s airstrikes and that of a piece RAW STORY carried last week.

Advertisement



The nature of the strikes differed; Clinton�s bombings were part of what some dubbed a �war of attrition,� an attempt to degrade Hussein�s hold on power without resorting to full-scale war, whereas Bush�s bombings appear to have been part of a concerted effort to clear the way for a ground invasion.

A sweeping attack, conducted in January of 1999, rained down 25 missiles on Iraqi soil, killing civilians. Clinton said the attack was in response to four planes violating the no-fly zones.

Clinton and British Prime Minister Tony Blair authorized air strikes on more than 100 days in 1999, sometimes several times per day. The bombings were ostensibly in response to Hussein�s refusal to allow UN weapons inspectors into the country, though critics alleged the move was aimed at deflecting attention from impeachment

The Raw Story | Clinton bombing of Iraq far exceeded Bush's in run-up to war; Bush 'spikes of activity' questioned


BUSH'S RUN UP TO WAR? LOL Then what happened?

"The nature of the strikes differed; Clinton's bombings were part of what some dubbed a war of attrition, an attempt to degrade Hussein's hold on power without resorting to full-scale war, whereas Bush's bombings appear to have been part of a concerted effort to clear the way for a ground invasion."

Oh that explains it :(
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

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See that dip between 1990 and 2000?


Yes, the one Cheney gave US as the cold war ended, like today's military is supposed to cost US less BECAUSE we aren't in a 'war'? You do know there was supposed to be benefits to winning the cold war right?
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Right, because GOP fought EVERYTHING he wanted to do. Weird you don't understand that...

It makes no sense and is not fact based.. how can I understand it?
 
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