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Was George W Bush a good president?[W:439:621]

Was George W Bush a good president?

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Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Boo Radley said:
not just Bush. McCain had a shot at my vote. Palin took care of that.
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So you found Crazy Joe Biden a better choice than Palin? I Saw Palin as needing more experience. I saw Biden as a guy who had maxed out what little talent he had with no chance of improving a lifetime of mediocrity
 
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TurtleDude said:
So you found Crazy Joe Biden a better choice than Palin? I Saw Palin as needing more experience. I saw Biden as a guy who had maxed out what little talent he had with no chance of improving a lifetime of mediocrity
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Hands down a better choice. Palin lacked instincts, knowledge, and basic intelligence. She made crazy Biden look like a genius.
 
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I voted no, but this current fellow is making George look like the best thing since buttered bread.
 
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Boo Radley said:
Hands down a better choice. Palin lacked instincts, knowledge, and basic intelligence. She made crazy Biden look like a genius.
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if the president had died within say a month or two of taking office, you might have a point. after a year, not so much. Biden's a moron. A law professor I had in law school taught at syracuse right after his Supreme Court clerkship for a couple years. he used to joke Biden graduated 69th in a class of 67

Biden had been in politics so long he could pretend he knew what he was talking about
 
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TurtleDude said:
if the president had died within say a month or two of taking office, you might have a point. after a year, not so much. Biden's a moron. A law professor I had in law school taught at syracuse right after his Supreme Court clerkship for a couple years. he used to joke Biden graduated 69th in a class of 67

Biden had been in politics so long he could pretend he knew what he was talking about
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And still hands down better than Palin. Worse choice than even Dan Quayle.
 
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Boo Radley said:
And still hands down better than Palin. Worse choice than even Dan Quayle.
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Quayle was actually a fairly good choice. One of my college friends-a liberal who went to work for Liz Holzman before she clerked for Justice Blackmun on the USSC told me when we got together a few years after school, that she assumed Dan Quayle was an idiot Until she had to work with him on some house-senate issue. She noted that while she (a nice very liberal Jewish girl from Tenafly) had almost nothing in common with Quayle-political or otherwise-he was one of the best prepared and most knowledgeable senators-on just about any subject

lots of people think Gerald Ford was a clumsy bumbling guy due to the media depicting him as such. Of course people who actually knew the score also knew that he was the best athlete to ever be president and was an accomplished skier, tennis player as well as a guy who could have played pro football.
 
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TurtleDude said:
Quayle was actually a fairly good choice. One of my college friends-a liberal who went to work for Liz Holzman before she clerked for Justice Blackmun on the USSC told me when we got together a few years after school, that she assumed Dan Quayle was an idiot Until she had to work with him on some house-senate issue. She noted that while she (a nice very liberal Jewish girl from Tenafly) had almost nothing in common with Quayle-political or otherwise-he was one of the best prepared and most knowledgeable senators-on just about any subject

lots of people think Gerald Ford was a clumsy bumbling guy due to the media depicting him as such. Of course people who actually knew the score also knew that he was the best athlete to ever be president and was an accomplished skier, tennis player as well as a guy who could have played pro football.
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And, Ford had the misfortune of being the VP of the President who was condemned in the worst scandal to ever hit that office. There was NO WAY that he was going to win election in his own right because of Nixon, yet he was pretty decent and would have been better than Carter.
 
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CaptainCourtesy said:
And, Ford had the misfortune of being the VP of the President who was condemned in the worst scandal to ever hit that office. There was NO WAY that he was going to win election in his own right because of Nixon, yet he was pretty decent and would have been better than Carter.
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One of my late aunt's closest friends was a high ranking member of the Ford administration and he noted that Ford knew that if he pardoned Nixon it would most likely guarantee him losing the election. Ford was a good man even though some of the things he did (the pardon wasn't one of them) I thought was poor judgment
 
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TurtleDude said:
One of my late aunt's closest friends was a high ranking member of the Ford administration and he noted that Ford knew that if he pardoned Nixon it would most likely guarantee him losing the election. Ford was a good man even though some of the things he did (the pardon wasn't one of them) I thought was poor judgment
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Over time, I have grown more and more respect for Ford. I read somewhere that he chose to pardon Nixon so that a trial of the President wouldn't be center-stage for all the world to see... and have other countries look negatively at us because of this. It was a smart move, a fairly selfless one. He knew what it would do to his political career, but he put the country's standing in the world, first.
 
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CaptainCourtesy said:
Over time, I have grown more and more respect for Ford. I read somewhere that he chose to pardon Nixon so that a trial of the President wouldn't be center-stage for all the world to see... and have other countries look negatively at us because of this. It was a smart move, a fairly selfless one. He knew what it would do to his political career, but he put the country's standing in the world, first.
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Over time we all gain better perspective on these leaders, which is why this poll is a little premature.
 
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Grant said:
Over time we all gain better perspective on these leaders, which is why this poll is a little premature.
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Until a President has been out of office for at least 10 years, it is impossible to truly assess the impact his administration had on the country.
 
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TurtleDude said:
Quayle was actually a fairly good choice. One of my college friends-a liberal who went to work for Liz Holzman before she clerked for Justice Blackmun on the USSC told me when we got together a few years after school, that she assumed Dan Quayle was an idiot Until she had to work with him on some house-senate issue. She noted that while she (a nice very liberal Jewish girl from Tenafly) had almost nothing in common with Quayle-political or otherwise-he was one of the best prepared and most knowledgeable senators-on just about any subject

lots of people think Gerald Ford was a clumsy bumbling guy due to the media depicting him as such. Of course people who actually knew the score also knew that he was the best athlete to ever be president and was an accomplished skier, tennis player as well as a guy who could have played pro football.
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Better than Palin, sure. But that's a low bar. He never did anything impressive I can remember.
 
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Grant said:
It seems you don't know much about Palin or Dan Quayle.
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Quite a bit. Being pretty isn't a qualification.
 
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I still wonder about his work on the Warren commission.
Not to say too much conspiracy, I wonder what Bush-43 supposedly told Carter on UFOs that made him cry in 1977.
CaptainCourtesy said:
And, Ford had the misfortune of being the VP of the President who was condemned in the worst scandal to ever hit that office. There was NO WAY that he was going to win election in his own right because of Nixon, yet he was pretty decent and would have been better than Carter.
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He also put the first federal income tax on Veteran's pensions .
 
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Navy Pride said:
I think history will judge President Bush as and outstanding president.
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No, NP. He'll be judged as either average or below average is my guess.
 
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TurtleDude said:
even better is the reactionary Bush sucks from Liberals. I judge presidents on several subjects. THe judges they appoint is the most important. In that area, Bush was a good president.
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By that logic ford, reagan, and bush 1 were bad presidents because they appointed, stevens, o'conner, and souter, respectively. Bush tried to appoint harriet miers.
 
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Bush's foreign policy wasn't just bad. It wasn't just ineffective. It was proactively detrimental to the Middle East. A monkey could have done a better job.
 
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Bush didnt veto a single bill the 6 years he had a majority. We were better off not even having a president.
 
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99percenter said:
By that logic ford, reagan, and bush 1 were bad presidents because they appointed, stevens, o'conner, and souter, respectively. Bush tried to appoint harriet miers.
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Stevens was a mistake in terms of his last 10 years on the court but when he was appointed he had graduated with the best average in the history of NW law.

I know the entire story about Souter and afar the Borking he was seen as confirmable. They didn't know what was lurking in his background that he kept quiet that lead him to become a hard core lefty. Miers was a dubious choice but there was lots of criticism that the Supreme Court had become inbred with only Harvard (Roberts, Kennedy, Scalia, Kagan, Ruth BG*, Souter) Yale (Alito, Sotomayor, Thomas) an Stanford (SDO, Rehnquist) Columbia (*RBG-she transferred due to her husband needing treatment for cancer in NYC-she made the law review at BOTH schools) graduates. Indeed Stevens was the last justice (NW) to be appointed who was not a graduate of what are generally seen as 4 of the top 5 (Chicago usually is ranked top 5 with Yale, Harvard, Stanford, Columbia being the other four though Michigan, NYU, Cornell, Duke, Penn, and UVA sometimes are listed in the top five)
 
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vasuderatorrent said:
Was George W Bush a good president?
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If the War in Iraq had never occurred, he would have gone down as one of the best in our history. 9/11 affected him profoundly and I think in some areas he overreacted. The Patriot Act and the War in Iraq were low points but I think driven by an honest desire to protect the lives of Americans.
 
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Boo Radley said:
look up being governor of Texas. It's a weak position and not like being governor any place else.
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I think this is a silly partisan comment. He had several years' experience as the Governor of Texas.

Agency History

The governor of Texas is the chief executive officer of the state, elected by the citizens every four years. The duties and responsibilities of the governor include serving as commander-in-chief of the state's military forces; convening special sessions of the legislature for specific purposes; delivering to the legislature at the beginning of each regular session a report on the condition of the state, an accounting of all public money under the governor's control, a recommended biennial budget, an estimate of the amounts of money required to be raised by taxation, and any recommendations he deems necessary; signing or vetoing bills passed by the legislature; and executing the laws of the state. The governor can grant reprieves and commutations of punishment and pardons, upon the recommendation of the Board of Pardons and Paroles, and revoke conditional pardons. He appoints numerous state officials (with the consent of the Senate), fills vacancies in state and district offices (except vacancies in the legislature), calls special elections to fill vacancies in the legislature, fills vacancies in the United States Senate until an election can be held, and serves as ex officio member of several state boards.
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Navy Pride said:
I think history will judge President Bush as and outstanding president.
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LOL......this is absolutely hilarious. Not only will the clown never be judged "Outstanding"....he will forever be known as the Herbert Hoover of the 21st century. The man who drove this country to the brink of economic and moral bankruptcy.
 
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