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Was George W Bush a good president?[W:439:621]

Was George W Bush a good president?


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Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Good point. :) Very true. I don't ever remember people slobbering all over GWB.

no one admitting Jizzing in their pants like main Obama slurper Chris Matthews did
 
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Obama's still got 2 more years - it ain't over yet.

This is true as well. Let's see how many MORE **** ups he makes.
 
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no one admitting Jizzing in their pants like main Obama slurper Chris Matthews did

:lamo That had to have been the MOST pathetic piece of "journalism" I have ever had the misfortune to witness.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

I think that, IF it could proven beyond a doubt that Bush actually lied about the wars (which there is no SOLID evidence of that), then THAT might make him actually worse than Obama.

What kind of lies are you looking for?

"The evidence indicates that Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program ... Iraq has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes and other equipment needed for gas centrifuges, which are used to enrich uranium for nuclear weapons." -- President Bush, Oct. 7, 2002, in Cincinnati.

"The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." -- President Bush, Jan.28, 2003, in the State of the Union address.

"We've learned that Iraq has trained al-Qaeda members in bomb-making and poisons and deadly gases ... Alliance with terrorists could allow the Iraqi regime to attack America without leaving any fingerprints."

"We believe [Saddam] has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons." -- Vice President Cheney on March 16, 2003 on "Meet the Press."

"We have also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas. We are concerned that Iraq is exploring ways of using these UAVs [unmanned aerial vehicles] for missions targeting the United States." -- President Bush, Oct. 7.

"We have seen intelligence over many months that they have chemical and biological weapons, and that they have dispersed them and that they're weaponized and that, in one case at least, the command and control arrangements have been established." -- President Bush, Feb. 8, 2003, in a national radio address.

"We know where [Iraq's WMD] are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south, and north somewhat." -- Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, March 30, 2003, in statements to the press.

There was no factual basis for any of these statements.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

What kind of lies are you looking for?



There was no factual basis for any of these statements.

This does not prove they were lies either. :) I don't really have a difficult time believing that Saddam Hussein already had or was in the process of trying to obtain some type of chemical weapons. I certainly KNOW that if the opportunity presented itself, he would not hesitate.
 
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That isn't the media though. I should have been clear and said the media. They just LOVED Obama and hated Bush. There is no denying that little factoid. ;)

The media was complicit in the Iraq Invasion propaganda, by CNN's own admission.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

This does not prove they were lies either. :)

So what were they? Let me know where the goal posts are.

We're going to come around to the Obama goal posts when we're done.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

So what were they? Let me know where the goal posts are.

We're going to come around to the Obama goal posts when we're done.

Well they aren't lies unless you can prove that Saddam Hussein never had or never had any intentions on having chemical weapons. Why would anyone have a hard time believing that about Saddam? I don't get it? We gave him PLENTY of time to dispose of anything incriminating that he had.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

What was the false narrative, specifically?

He lied about WMD , blood for oil , Halliburton no bid, he's stupid, great Bush recession, etc.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Well they aren't lies unless you can prove that Saddam Hussein never had or never had any intentions on having chemical weapons.

So saying there is there is intelligence indicating something, when none actually exist, is not a lie?

By the way, do you believe Obama lied about Benghazi?

Careful. :)
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

So saying there is there is intelligence indicating something, when none actually exist, is not a lie?

By the way, do you believe Obama lied about Benghazi?

Careful. :)

I already stated they had plenty of time to get rid of any incriminating evidence. Just because we didn't FIND it, doesn't mean it never existed. :)

I think Obama is a novice and ****ed up big time.

And WHY would I have to be careful? That is extremely silly and juvenile behavior. If you wonder why I call myself a "moderate," it's because I am neither a republican nor a democrat and cannot agree with all of either party's platforms, and I find that I fall in the "middle" on a LOT of issues.

Just because a person doesn't like Obama does not make her a republican. :lol:
 
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Was George W Bush a good president?

He got most of his legislative goals acheived. He was very effective in foreign policy. He wanted two wars and he got them and left both in good shape whether the next president wanted to carry them forward or not. There is broad agreement that he was one of the most consequential presidents ever what with the Patriot Act, the No Child Left Behind Act, Medicare Part D, the AIDS reiief program, and all of these programs have endured.

He was a big government president and presided over the largest expansion of the federal government since the Great Society. I don't know why liberals don't love the guy. Most of what they don't like wasn't his fault.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Body armor is completely new to me. We didn't complain in Vietnam because we didn't have body armor. All we had were stinking flak jackets and if you were lucky they might stop a grenade fragment. Otherwise they slowed you down and you made grunting sounds when humping in the bush. Grunts grunted back then.

Some of us wonder how todays body armor would work out in Vietnam when it's 120 degrees with 80% humidity ?

The problem is, nobody has been able to figure out how to defeat IED's.




Kill the people who put them there before they put them there.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

I already stated they had plenty of time to get rid of any incriminating evidence. Just because we didn't FIND it, doesn't mean it never existed. :)

The intelligence never existed, and what intelligence they did have they knew was unreliable. You're certainly giving a lot of leeway to Bush, when it comes to burden of proof. Do you afford the same to Obama?

I think Obama is a novice and ****ed up big time.

Okay.

And WHY would I have to be careful?

If you call Obama a liar, but not Bush, then we have an example of setting different standards and different goal posts. I don't know if you have called Obama a liar. Have you?

Just because a person doesn't like Obama does not make her a republican. :lol:

Never said you were.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

I knew better that it had nothing to do with WMD, oil or Al Qaeda but Sadam was training and supporting other terrorist.

Iraq sheltered the Abu Nidal Organization, an international terrorist organization that has carried out terrorist attacks in twenty countries, killing or injuring almost 900 people. Targets have included the United States and several other Western nations. Each of these groups have offices in Baghdad and receive training, logistical assistance, and financial aid from the government of Iraq.

In April 2002, Saddam Hussein increased from $10,000 to $25,000 the money offered to families of Palestinian suicide/homicide bombers.




About 100,000 Iraqis died in Bush's war in Iraq.

Right now the relatives and fellow tribesmen of those people are looking for some payback.

Think about it.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

We had a chance to properly supply the troops. We didnt. "Great wartime president" :roll:

You don't know a wit about the body armor issue, okay? There is a lot more to that story, then whether someone shipped out armor or not. Much has to do with Clinton on this as well. Advancement in armor is base on R&D spending. Clinton budget cuts had a great deal to do with many technology areas suffering later on when the war started. Lightweight body armor is specific to the threat they are designed for. Threats changed, and tons of vendors were involved in building it. Quality control also plays a big part, and was affected by the fact that armor systems were being built 24/7 and that the designed had to change based on changed in enemy tactics that made it very difficult to keep up. You can't rev up R&D one day have have production armor the next, and that's what happened.

So your statement taken into the correct context is total bull****, and unsubstantiated.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

The economic collapse was culmination of the failed bush policies. Giving tax cuts to the rich, bushcare, no child left behind, giving subprime loans to minimum wage workers, lack of regulation, two failed wars, and the list goes on.
Undeniably the worst president in american history. Not even close.




Wrong.

Bush is far from the worst, but he is in the bottom third.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

He did some good things. He did some not so good things. I'd give him slightly over 55% approval rating.
 
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Bush didn't tell any more untruths about Iraq than his predecessor, his predecessor's administration, and high ranking Democrats did.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

No,
Democrats spent 8 years beating up on Bush
and Millions of easily manipulated and entertained Americans bought into their false narratives.




Bush deserved just about everything that was said about him.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Bush didn't tell any more untruths about Iraq than his predecessor, his predecessor's administration, and high ranking Democrats did.





Bush took the USA into an unnecessary, expensive war in Iraq which didn't make the USA any safer but did help Iran.
 
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