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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?[W:439:621]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    They were not able to do their job properly. I'm sorry if you don't understand their lack of accomplishing their job, because of Saddam's noncompliance.
    and therefore, the proper response was to take out Saddam Hussain and create a power vacuum with the predictable result we're seeing now.
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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?[W:439:621]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    and therefore, the proper response was to take out Saddam Hussain and create a power vacuum with the predictable result we're seeing now.
    As undesirable as that is, yes. It was the best option.

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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?[W:439:621]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    As undesirable as that is, yes. It was the best option.

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    Hindsight is 20-20.
    Intelligent people are supposed to have foresight.
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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?[W:439:621]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Intelligent people are supposed to have foresight.
    Foresight includes seeing probable and improbable outcomes. To know with certainty what the outcome is going to be would requre time travel, or to be an accurate psychic.

    Do you really expect that?
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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?[W:439:621]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Absolute nonsense.

    Of-course Saddam had WMD.

    A long list of Democratic politicians going back to the late 90s even agreed that he had WMD and something needed to be done about it.

    Of-course they turned on him when they needed to construct a false narrative about his " lies ".

    Unfortunately, our Country is filled with easilly influenced and easilly manipulated people, who bought their BS hook line and sinker

    You're a great example of that
    I said 'before 2003.' You just proved exactly nothing.

    Other than that our country is filled with easily influenced and easily manipulated people who bought the New American Century BS hook line and sinker. And provided a great example.
    I fight against the ignorant, irresponsible, and/or closed-minded.
    This group is the worst enemy of America and its freedoms. It includes, but is not limited to, all Trump supporters.

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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?[W:439:621]

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    I said 'before 2003.' You just proved exactly nothing.

    Other than that our country is filled with easily influenced and easily manipulated people who bought the New American Century BS hook line and sinker. And provided a great example.

    "One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
    --President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

    "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
    --President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

    "Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
    --Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

    "He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
    --Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

    "[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
    Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
    -- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

    "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
    -Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

    "Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
    -- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

    "There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
    Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
    -- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

    "We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
    -- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

    "We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
    -- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

    "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
    -- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

    "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
    -- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

    "The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
    -- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

    "I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
    -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

    "There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
    -- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

    "He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
    -- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

    "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
    -- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

    "We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
    -- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

    "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
    -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003


    Sometimes I wonder how so many people could have been so easily manipulated and influenced by Democrat talking points.

    To the point where they allowed themselves to be so influenced by Democrat talking points that they traded away any semblance of objectivity for a bunch of false narratives.

    And then I remembered this....

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/05/us...anted=all&_r=0

    And this.........

    Election 2012: Obama re-elected to second term - NY Daily News

    And realize Millions and millions of Americans just aren't that bright.
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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?[W:439:621]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Foresight includes seeing probable and improbable outcomes. To know with certainty what the outcome is going to be would requre time travel, or to be an accurate psychic.

    Do you really expect that?
    I expect them to foresee the probable outcomes. What we've seen in Iraq was a probable outcome. Baghdad becoming the center of a democratic nation and friendly to the US, which was to have been greeted as liberators, was a pipe dream of the most unlikely sort.
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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?[W:439:621]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Foresight includes seeing probable and improbable outcomes. To know with certainty what the outcome is going to be would requre time travel, or to be an accurate psychic.

    Do you really expect that?
    No, but I expect plans and implementation of said plans, for both the probable and the improbable outcomes.

    Which is impossible when conflicting political positions of politicians who don't really give a damn are the actual guiding force behind the implementation.
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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?[W:439:621]

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    No, but I expect plans and implementation of said plans, for both the probable and the improbable outcomes.

    Which is impossible when conflicting political positions of politicians who don't really give a damn are the actual guiding force behind the implementation.
    OK, who do you blame them?

    The politicians who held course on going to war, or those who flipped on the issue?
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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?[W:439:621]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    OK, who do you blame them?

    The politicians who held course on going to war, or those who flipped on the issue?
    Both.

    The course was wrong, and flipping was wrong.
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