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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You can judge al that by the phrasing? You are special!
    Don't be an a**. By his phrasing "don't fault Bush for the war" he is implying the war was a mistake. How else are you to interpret that?


    You miss poor old Saddam, huh?
    I miss stability.
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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?[W:439:621]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    But the cause of the 2008 Financial crisis has been discussed on this forum thoroughly, and it wasn't Bush that caused it.
    He wasn't the direct cause. It was likely to happen no matter who was president. But he certainly played a role in making it worse.
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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Don't be an a**. By his phrasing "don't fault Bush for the war" he is implying the war was a mistake. How else are you to interpret that?
    And from that you took it to mean all right wingers. It seems clear enough that the problems began when Obama fled Iraq.

    I miss stability.
    And you feel Iraq was stable under Saddam Hussein, si?

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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?[W:439:621]

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    He wasn't the direct cause. It was likely to happen no matter who was president. But he certainly played a role in making it worse.
    That article is nonsense. Never, ever, take the NYT seriously.

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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    And from that you took it to mean all right wingers.
    I never said "all right wingers." But in general, you cannot deny many on the Right are starting to view the war as a mistake.


    It seems clear enough that the problems began when Obama fled Iraq.
    The problems began when we went in there in the first place. We broke up an established government and churned up instability. Things were not sunshines and rainbows with Bush in office, either (btw, don't bother playing the Obama card. Never voted for the guy).

    And you feel Iraq was stable under Saddam Hussein, si?
    It was far from perfect but it was stable. Yes. Far more so than how it ended up.
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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?[W:439:621]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    That article is nonsense. Never, ever, take the NYT seriously.
    So you deny Bush's role? What exactly did that article get wrong? Be specific!
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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    If you don't fault Bush then who do you fault?

    Well, judging from that phrasing, at least the Right is finally starting to admit the Iraq War was a mistake.
    Your doing the typical liberal talking with a forked tongue, making **** up that I never said.

    Don't respond to a three week old post of mine and then take it out of context.

    Here is what I posted. It's from a Washington Post article about a poll of veterans who served in Iraq and Afghanistan.
    It seems they don't blame Bush. And they wish Bush was their CnC not an incompetent community organizer.

    I blame the liberals who politicized the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and even politicized the war against Al Qaeda. Now Al Qaeda has a real army. Who should we blame ?

    <"War vets miss commander in chief George W. Bush
    >" Iraq and Afghanistan veterans prefer George W. Bush to Barack Obama as commander in chief, according to a Washington Post-Kaiser Family Foundation poll.

    Sixty-five percent of post-9/11 veterans say that Bush was a good commander in chief while just 42 percent say the same of Obama. That lopsided preference comes despite veterans' lukewarm assessments of the wars begun under Bush's watch.

    Dig into the poll data and you see several clues for why Bush's image is stronger than Obama's..."<

    Veterans don't fault Bush for Iraq

    Veterans' groups that support Obama are in the minority Note: Poll taken before revelations of Obama's VA death panels.

    War vets miss commander in chief George W. Bush"<
    War vets miss commander in chief George W. Bush - The Washington Post

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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    I never said "all right wingers." But in general, you cannot deny many on the Right are starting to view the war as a mistake.
    Not maintaining troops there was a mistake and all the generals said so. The peace was a mistake. Even Joe Biden said after George Bush left office that Iraq was stable with a good future.
    The problems began when we went in there in the first place. We broke up an established government and churned up instability. Things were not sunshines and rainbows with Bush in office, either (btw, don't bother playing the Obama card. Never voted for the guy).
    Saddam had tried to develop nuclear weapons, used gas on his own people, had body dumps all over Iraq and had wars with his neighbors, had bombed Israel, tried to get the Big Gun to bomb Israel, had 'rape rooms', bribed UN members, shot on America planes, and so on. How was this stable?
    It was far from perfect but it was stable. Yes. Far more so than how it ended up.
    It ended up that way because Barrack Obama withdrew the troops. That's the only reason.

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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    I never said "all right wingers." But in general, you cannot deny many on the Right are starting to view the war as a mistake.

    As witness to that, they're already reminding us of all the Democrats who voted to authorize the invasion. It won't be long before it's the fault of the left wing.
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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Don't respond to a three week old post of mine and then take it out of context.
    The fact that it is three weeks old matters because... ?

    And I took nothing out of context. I responded to exactly what you posted.

    Here is what I posted. It's from a Washington Post article about a poll of veterans who served in Iraq and Afghanistan.
    It seems they don't blame Bush. And they wish Bush was their CnC not an incompetent community organizer.
    That is not exactly resounding praise when you are picked over a community organizer.

    I blame the liberals who politicized the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and even politicized the war against Al Qaeda.
    Empty rhetoric. War is politics.

    Now Al Qaeda has a real army. Who should we blame ?
    Neo-imperialism, the War on Terror and everyone who promotes it.



    Sixty-five percent of post-9/11 veterans say that Bush was a good commander in chief while just 42 percent say the same of Obama. That lopsided preference comes despite veterans' lukewarm assessments of the wars begun under Bush's watch.
    And there you go. Turns out your beloved veterans aren't so pro-Iraq War after all, or at the very least, did not like how Bush and his crew handled it.


    Dig into the poll data and you see several clues for why Bush's image is stronger than Obama's..."<
    This is not a debate over who is preferred/less s****y. This is about why Bush is considered a bad president (and yes, I would say Obama is a bad president, too.)
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