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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

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    Was George W Bush a good president?[W:439:621]
    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It is absolutely related and will rank as the lowest point in American electorate history. Had the people elected a stronger and more experienced President many of these threads wouldn't even exist.
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    For the first time in history America has created Constitution Free Zones and Free Speech Zones. This should raise a few alarms.
    Neither of these are on topic and has lead to derailing.

    Y'all need to return to the topic. There is already an in-thread warning. Stick to discussing the topic: Was George Bush a good president?

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    Was George W Bush a good president?[W:439:621]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    That's my observation. Do you have another candidate?
    Electing George W. Bush twice. Hence, the topic if the thread.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?[W:439:621]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Electing George W. Bush twice. Hence, the topic if the thread.
    Well because this topic is limited only to George Bush I suppose the point is yours.

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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?[W:439:621]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Electing George W. Bush twice. Hence, the topic if the thread.
    Nobody said GWB was a good president, just that they can understand why he did the things he did at the time.

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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?[W:439:621]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Nobody said GWB was a good president, just that they can understand why he did the things he did at the time.
    I can't. I can't understand letting bin Laden escape Tora Bora then ginning up a war with Iraq for no discernible reason.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?[W:439:621]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I can't. I can't understand letting bin Laden escape Tora Bora then ginning up a war with Iraq for no discernible reason.
    I know, but at the same time, that douche Saddam was making threats and having everyone believe he had WMD.

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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    For the first time in history America has created Constitution Free Zones and Free Speech Zones. This should raise a few alarms.
    Minor quibble, but related to the thread topic ... Free Speech Zones were largely a creation of the Bush administration.

    Bush Zones Go National | The Nation

    At the 2000 GOP nominating convention in Philadelphia, candidate Bush created a fenced-in, out-of-sight protest zone that could only hold barely 1,500 people at a time. So citizens who wished to give voice to their many grievances with the Powers That Be had to:

    (1) Schedule their exercise of First Amendment rights with the decidedly unsympathetic authorities.

    (2) Report like cattle to the protest pen at their designated time, and only in the numbers authorized.

    (3) Then, under the recorded surveillance of the authorities, feel free to let loose with all the speech they could utter within their allotted minutes (although no one--not Bush, not convention delegates, not the preening members of Congress, not the limousine-gliding corporate sponsors and certainly not the mass media--would be anywhere nearby to hear a single word of what they had to say).

    Imagine how proud the Founders would be of this interpretation of their revolutionary work. The Democrats, always willing to learn useful tricks from the opposition, created their own "free-speech zone" when they gathered in Los Angeles that year for their convention.

    Once ensconced in the White House, the Bu****es institutionalized the art of dissing dissent, routinely dispatching the Secret Service to order local police to set up FSZs to quarantine protesters wherever Bush goes. The embedded media trooping dutifully behind him almost never cover this fascinating and truly newsworthy phenomenon, instead focusing almost entirely on spoon-fed soundbites from the President's press office.
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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?[W:439:621]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I know, but at the same time, that douche Saddam was making threats and having everyone believe he had WMD.
    Yeah, and if we went and deposed every tinpot dictator who "made threats," that's all we'd ever do.

    Nobody's saying Saddam was a nice guy. But was it worth nearly 5,000 American lives and untold Iraqi lives to replace him with a far more unstable situation?
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?[W:439:621]

    GWB was a compassionate conservative--
    but Cheney didn't get the memo--
    Cheney clearly chaired the secret energy conferences in 2001, that came before 9/11--
    Cheney then clearly became a war-time co-President -
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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?[W:439:621]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Yeah, and if we went and deposed every tinpot dictator who "made threats," that's all we'd ever do.

    Nobody's saying Saddam was a nice guy. But was it worth nearly 5,000 American lives and untold Iraqi lives to replace him with a far more unstable situation?
    No it wasn't, but it's too late now. Those lives are gone and they aren't coming back no matter how angry you are. And hindsight is always 20/20.

    Another point, some of the same people who are angry about Bush's wars, wanted us to send us to Syria.

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