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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Your ad hominem attack is duly noted, thus subtracting points from your credibility as a serious debater. Now, back to the original subject which was... what again? The war in Iraq. Oh, yes, that was it. Now, let's see.... we've established that the CIC who decided to invade was one George Bush, but that the Congress authorized the invasion, but stopped short of actually declaring war on anyone, thus subverting the Constitution. We've established that both Democrats and Republicans voted for the invasion, thus taking the partisan nonsense out of the debate. We've established that today's Iraq is an unholy mess after Obama followed the previously established withdrawal plan.

    OK, that's about it. Carry on.
    You know that was directed at Kobie and his tiresome one-liners, right?

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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You know that was directed at Kobie and his tiresome one-liners, right?
    Yes, I know, so only half as many good debater points have been subtracted.
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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I debate all the time. I just see little point in debating you or anyone whose default setting is "liberals bad 100% of the time."
    Where does he say that? I didn't read that. He was talking about the president, and he's right, so I don't know why you would pick that post to get your panties in a twist about.

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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, there are but, as many keep explaining, not all Muslims are terrorists. We would need to work with the democracies and, more importantly, those Muslims who are also fighting terrorism, who do not want Sharia Law imposed on them. But after we abandoned both Iraq and Afghanistan and left them to their own meager devices, can any Muslim leader really trust us anymore? And despite the reluctance of Americans to get involved the world still needs American leadership. We have to demonstrate that we are serious about this 'War On Terrorism" but so far we have not done that.
    I don't agree with the war on the terror. I will say it is good to keep them on their toes and to scatter them and make it more difficult for them to collaborate, but it's still a wasteful "war."

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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Where does he say that? I didn't read that. He was talking about the president, and he's right, so I don't know why you would pick that post to get your panties in a twist about.
    He's right that re-electing Obama is the worst thing the American electorate has ever done?
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    And yet you read the posts and feel the need to respond. Why?
    Masochism, I suppose.
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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    He's right that re-electing Obama is the worst thing the American electorate has ever done?
    Well maybe not the worst, but it sure wasn't a GOOD thing, IMO. I find him to be quite ineffective, and many of us do not agree with a lot of his policy. That doesn't mean that people even think that he's "bad" (never mind liberals) but just not a good president.

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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I don't agree with the war on the terror. I will say it is good to keep them on their toes and to scatter them and make it more difficult for them to collaborate, but it's still a wasteful "war."
    But how can you scatter them without it being a war? That's like John Kerry saying it would an “unbelievably small, limited” effort, which is designed for domestic consumption rather than to strike terror into the hearts of any enemies. I also don't understand how it can be a 'wasteful war' if we want to rid the world of Islamist terrorism. I think many Muslims would want to side with the democracies in these efforts as well. I believe they are 'The Silent Majority|.

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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    He's right that re-electing Obama is the worst thing the American electorate has ever done?
    That's my observation. Do you have another candidate?

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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    But how can you scatter them without it being a war? That's like John Kerry saying it would an “unbelievably small, limited” effort, which is designed for domestic consumption rather than to strike terror into the hearts of any enemies. I also don't understand how it can be a 'wasteful war' if we want to rid the world of Islamist terrorism.
    Well because, I just don't think it's very effective and I don't believe we could ever come close to killing off the extremists, especially when we are creating more hate and resentment in the meantime.

    I think many Muslims would want to side with the democracies in these efforts as well. I believe they are 'The Silent Majority|.
    One would think so. I'm not sure, but I believe that Sharia Law is a part of their beliefs, or at least in some sects. I think a lot of them, especially those who live in the ME, WANT Sharia Law.

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