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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    rated by whom and on what grounds? liberal historians love FDR. even conservative historians give him high marks for getting his agenda enacted.

    your rants about Bush demonstrate terminal Bush Derangement Syndrome. CLinton is not rated as the greatest-that is a bald faced LIE. Harding and Grant are rated below Bush and Nixon. rating a president within a few years of his presidency is bogus.
    I certainly agree with the last part. It is impossible to really rate Bush or Obama. We need at least a decade after a President leaves office in order to really assess the impact of their Presidency. My guess is, that after all is said and done, Bush will probably be a little below average due to what happened to the economy during his Presidency (though he will get decent marks for managing the two wars).
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I certainly agree with the last part. It is impossible to really rate Bush or Obama. We need at least a decade after a President leaves office in order to really assess the impact of their Presidency. My guess is, that after all is said and done, Bush will probably be a little below average due to what happened to the economy during his Presidency (though he will get decent marks for managing the two wars).
    Iraq and Afghanistan are disastrous. He said it would be quick and easy. He even had a "mission accomplished" banner. Two longest wars in US history and we got nothing out if it except more violence and a failed economy.
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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by mmi View Post
    You claim Obama doesn't care about the troops. I say that's completely absurd nonsense. And, no, I don't care how many people in the military agree with you — I'd say you have to be an outright idiot to think that he doesn't care..
    George W. Bush Is Smarter than You


    >" One of my students asked “How involved was President Bush with what was going on?” I smiled and responded, “What you really mean is, ‘Was President Bush smart enough to understand what was going on,’ right?”

    The class went dead silent. Everyone knew that this was the true meaning of the question. Kudos to that student for asking the hard question and for framing it so politely. I had stripped away that decorum and exposed the raw nerve.

    I looked hard at the 60 MBA students and said “President Bush is smarter than almost every one of you.”

    More silence.


    I could tell they were waiting for me to break the tension, laugh, and admit I was joking.

    I did not. A few shifted in their seats, then I launched into a longer answer. While it was a while ago, here is an amalgam of that answer and others I have given in similar contexts.

    I am not kidding. You are quite an intelligent group. Don’t take it personally, but President Bush is smarter than almost every one of you. Were he a student here today, he would consistently get “HP” (High Pass) grades without having to work hard, and he’d get an “H” (High, the top grade) in any class where he wanted to put in the effort..."<



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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    Iraq and Afghanistan are disastrous. He said it would be quick and easy. He even had a "mission accomplished" banner. Two longest wars in US history and we got nothing out if it except more violence and a failed economy.
    I disagree that they were disastrous. Length of time is not a benchmark for success. Both wars did a lot to reduce the potential impact of terrorists. Ultimately, that goal was accomplished.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I certainly agree with the last part. It is impossible to really rate Bush or Obama. We need at least a decade after a President leaves office in order to really assess the impact of their Presidency. My guess is, that after all is said and done, Bush will probably be a little below average due to what happened to the economy during his Presidency (though he will get decent marks for managing the two wars).
    his two supreme court picks-in terms of pure intellect and opinion writing skills rank ahead of Clinton, his father's, Reagan's (scalia is going to be remembered as one of the 5-6 brightest ever, while SDO only will be remembered for her gender) and Obama's. Ford's Stevens was probably the worst of Presidents who still had people on the court in the last 5 years (Rehnquist was a strong CJ-he was elevated to the Court by Nixon but made CJ by Reagan. I consider him a Nixon justice
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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    I knew better that it had nothing to do with WMD, oil or Al Qaeda but Sadam was training and supporting other terrorist.
    Nope. No he wasnt.


    Iraq sheltered the Abu Nidal Organization, an international terrorist organization that has carried out terrorist attacks in twenty countries, killing or injuring almost 900 people. Targets have included the United States and several other Western nations. Each of these groups have offices in Baghdad and receive training, logistical assistance, and financial aid from the government of Iraq.
    Straight for the GWBush White House website as your source. You do realize that movement died when Abu Nidal died right?

    In April 2002, Saddam Hussein increased from $10,000 to $25,000 the money offered to families of Palestinian suicide/homicide bombers.
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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    Iraq and Afghanistan are disastrous. He said it would be quick and easy. He even had a "mission accomplished" banner. Two longest wars in US history and we got nothing out if it except more violence and a failed economy.
    The military mission going into Iraq was regime change. That mission was quickly accomplished.

    What followed was actually a second war, an insurrection. Comparable to the Spanish American War and what soon followed in the Philippines, the Philippine Insurrection.

    G.W. Bush is a neoconservative and neoconservatives believe in nation building just like liberal Democrats.

    Personally I don't think our military should be used for nation building. Use the Peace Corps.


    Should also remember during the Iraq insurrection 6,000 Al Qaeda fighters were killed on the battlefield.

    This shouldn't surprise you but it probably will, I was never a big fan of either G>H. Bush or G.W. Bush. You may have noticed my lean, conservative. I use "Very Conservative" only because I don't want to be confused with neoconservatives who are really liberals.

    I wasn't a supporter of sending ground troops into Iraq in 2003. I might have been if we were able to put 500,000 boots on the ground like daddy Bush was able to do. But when those 200,000 American boots crossed the border into Iraq I had to come on board because I know what it's personally like when your own peers back at home back stab you when your on the battlefield.

    The original mission was regime change. That mission was accomplished. Nation building should have never been added on after the mission was accomplished.

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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

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    We had a chance to properly supply the troops. We didnt. "Great wartime president"
    We have a chance right now and it's not happening.

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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Straight for the GWBush White House website as your source.
    Lets see how I can say this ?

    There hasn't been a G.W. Bush White House website since Januaray 20th, 2009.

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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Graffias View Post
    His administration was responsible for launching two wars which cost the U.S dearly in blood and treasure. His fiscal policies and tax cuts for the super rich helped to bring about a devastating economic recession that the country still hasn't recovered from. His foreign policy emboldened U.S enemies, alienated allies, and also helped to turn formerly neutral nations adversarial (especially Russia.)

    He also turned the majority of the Islamic world against the U.S by referring to the Iraq war as a "crusade", turning a blind eye to atrocities being committed in Iraq, and allowing paramilitary mercenaries (aka "contractors") to serve with U.S troops. The administration was also anti-science and cut back funding for stem-cell research to support his bible-thumping base. He is a stain on this nation's history, and deserves the title of Worst U.S President Ever.

    Absolute nonsense..

    First, the Iraq resolution was bi-partisan and the whole " lied about WMD, blood for oil and Halliburton " nonsense was just a huge Democrat false narrative pushed out by the media to ensnare stupid people.

    Plenty of Democrats believed Saddam had WMD and believed he was trying to expand his stockpile with nuclear capabilities and Halliburton's first " No Bid Contract" was actually given to them by Bill Clinton during his Kosovo Blue Dress diversion

    "One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
    --President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

    "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
    --President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

    "Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
    --Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

    "He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
    --Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998



    "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
    -Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

    "Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
    -- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

    "There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
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    -- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

    "We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
    -- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

    "We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
    -- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002


    "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
    -- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002


    "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
    -- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

    "The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
    -- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002


    "I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
    -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002



    "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
    -- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

    "We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
    -- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

    "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
    -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003



    Giving " tax cuts to the rich " didn't cause any recession. Thats' so ridiculous.

    The recession was caused by the collapse of the Sub-prime housing bubble. A bubble that was built via Democrat policies in the 90's that forced lenders to lower their standards via the threat of DOJ action.

    Clinton also co-opted the GSE's and appointed his own corrupt Democrat buddies to their executive and chair positions. Franklin Raines was forced to leave Fannie Mae in 2004 after a SEC filing uncovered unprecedented amounts of corruption.

    2 years later Fannie Mae was fined 400 Million dollars by the SEC and in 2011, both Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae were the subject of a new SEC investigation that accused the two Democrat protected GSEs of hiding massive amounts of worthless debt.

    The CURRENT recession is just a continuation of the 2008 Financial crisis and has NOTHING to do with George Bush and EVERYTHING to do with the millions of idiots who equated platitudes and bumper sticker slogans with presidential qualifications in 2008 and in 2012.

    Easily entertained and manipulated voters elected a media creation instead of a qualified leader and we as a Country have been struggling ever since.

    The fact that YOU still blame Bush for our lousy economy 6 years in pretty much backs up my claims about the mentality of the average Obama voter and or Bush hater.
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