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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

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    David Horowitz is a Red Diaper Baby. He may have been your leader back during the 60's and 70's since he was one of the top leaders of the Groucho Marxist aka Students for a Democratic Society, aka "new Left," In 1972 they came under the Democrat tent hiding behind the liberal label and when the dirtied that label they hide behind the progressive label today.
    Got it, MORE nonsense....

    As long as Horowitz and his group 'says' it, it must be true! *shaking head*

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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by dad2three2001 View Post
    Got it, NOT based on the 1998 statement of policy but instead by Dubya/Cheney twisting the intel to fit their needs!
    If you watched C-SPAN back in 2003 the first thing that the Bush administration used in Congress to get Congressional approval for regime change was Clinton's Iraq Liberation Act. But liberals being liberals ignore what laws they don't like. So the Bush administration knew that liberals were Islamophobes so he used WMD's.

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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    May 1, 2003

    "My fellow Americans, major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed."

    Dubya

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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    If you watched C-SPAN back in 2003 the first thing that the Bush administration used in Congress to get Congressional approval for regime change was Clinton's Iraq Liberation Act. But liberals being liberals ignore what laws they don't like. So the Bush administration knew that liberals were Islamophobes so he used WMD's.

    Got it, Dems wouldn't go along with the 1998 agreement on justification so FINALLY Bush wore down 40% of Dems to vote for his war of choice...

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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by dad2three2001 View Post
    May 1, 2003

    "My fellow Americans, major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed."

    Dubya
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    If you watched C-SPAN back in 2003 the first thing that the Bush administration used in Congress to get Congressional approval for regime change was Clinton's Iraq Liberation Act. But liberals being liberals ignore what laws they don't like. So the Bush administration knew that liberals were Islamophobes so he used WMD's.
    Bush Administration policy toward Iraq changed after the September 11 terrorist attacks, even though little or no hard evidence linking Iraq to those attacks has come to light. The shift toward a more assertive policy first became clear in President Bush’s State of the Union message on January 29, 2002, when he characterized Iraq as part of an “axis of evil,” along with Iran and North Korea.


    Pre-September 11 Policy

    Throughout most of its first year, the Bush Administration continued most elements of Clinton Administration policy. With no immediate consensus within the new Administration on how forcefully to proceed with an overthrow strategy

    ...Even though several senior officials had been strong advocates of a regime change policy, many of the questions about the wisdom and difficulty of that strategy that had faced previous administrations were debated in the Bush Administration.


    Aside from restating the U.S. policy of regime change, the Bush Administration said and did little to promote that outcome throughout most of its first year


    fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/14391.pdf

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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by dad2three2001 View Post
    Got it, MORE nonsense....

    As long as Horowitz and his group 'says' it, it must be true! *shaking head*
    How old are you ? If you weren't around during the 1960's your exempt from not knowing who Horowitz is and who's hiding behind the liberal and progressive labels with in the Democrat Party today.

    Why do you think so many young voters voted for Obama ? They were uninformed or misinformed. They probably use Wikipedia thinking it must be a reliable source.

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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Wow, You mean he was OPTIMISTIC that Dubya's war of choice MIGHT end on good terms? He must NOT be a politician right? lol

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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Below average President by and large. Appreciate his resiliancy after 9/11, and think he did excellent with his SCOTUS nominations, but by and large he didn't blow my skirt up and actively put me off on a number of issues.
    Imagine if Walmart owned access to all the streets in your town. You can go to Target or the mom and pop downtown if you want, but all the roads leading there require a toll, whereas the roads leading to Walmart are free. That is not the avenue the internet needs to go down.

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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by dad2three2001 View Post
    Wow, You mean he was OPTIMISTIC that Dubya's war of choice MIGHT end on good terms? He must NOT be a politician right? lol
    Own Biden sticking his foot in his mouth. You're always very keen to dump on 43. Have a nice crow meal.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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