View Poll Results: Was George W Bush a good president?

Voters
152. You may not vote on this poll
  • I'm a right leaning American, yes.

    33 21.71%
  • I'm a left leaning American, yes.

    4 2.63%
  • I'm not American, Yes.

    4 2.63%
  • I'm a right leaning American, no.

    31 20.39%
  • I'm a left leaning American, no.

    66 43.42%
  • I'm not American, no.

    14 9.21%
Page 51 of 81 FirstFirst ... 41495051525361 ... LastLast
Results 501 to 510 of 810

Thread: Was George W Bush a good president?[W:439:621]

  1. #501
    Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    NJ
    Last Seen
    02-02-16 @ 04:11 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    13,375

    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by dad2three2001 View Post
    Doesn't refute the FACT that Bush wanted to get Bin Laden because of HIS Daddy complex....
    GWB went after Bin Laden because Clinton failed us and many died on 9/11 due to flawed lib policy..
    Last edited by Travis007; 06-16-14 at 02:34 PM.

  2. #502
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Behind the Orange Curtain
    Last Seen
    01-30-15 @ 12:29 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    15,633

    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by dad2three2001 View Post
    What war? Give me a link. The invasion was based on false, biased intell to give Bush a reason to attack Saddam because he was mean to his Daddy!
    G.W. Bush already had a reason to attack Iraq, the law that President Clinton signed into law, the "Iraq Liberation Act" of 1998.

    As usual the left don't like enforcing the laws that are on the books be it our immigration laws or the Iraq Liberation Act.

    But back in 2003 liberals were still scared of Muslims and started shaking and wetting their panties when they heard of Muslims with WMD's.

  3. #503
    Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Last Seen
    05-04-15 @ 03:39 PM
    Lean
    Very Liberal
    Posts
    2,422

    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    In what year did Pelosi and Reid take over.. and started the Cap and Trade talk.. hint:2006.. notice when the economy started to sour a bit..
    Sure, now give me the bills the Dems passed that changed Dubya/GOP policy. OOPS

  4. #504
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Behind the Orange Curtain
    Last Seen
    01-30-15 @ 12:29 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    15,633

    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    You have got to be kidding... lets see some support for that statement....


    "Neocons Are Liberals Who Have Been Mugged by Reality"


    >" The terms neo-conservatism and conservatism are often used interchangeably, but the two have very different meanings. It may help to distinguish other forms of political ideology to explain what neo-conservative means. For example, the term “paleo” conservative represents the “Old Right” or traditional conservatives, while “neo” conservative refers to new or modern conservatives.


    The latter appears oxymoronic in that conservative means to conserve, or preserve, traditional ways or views. The terms new and traditional simply do not gel. What many find surprising is the fact that the man known as “the godfather of neo-conservatism” was politically left of center, although this fact does help clarify the issue. Using the term neo-conservative is rather like saying liberal-conservative.


    The man dubbed the godfather of neo-conservatism, Irving Kristol, was liberal but apparently couldn’t find what he was looking for on the left. He didn’t find it on the right either, so he essentially molded an ideology that combined various philosophies. He wrote more than one book of note on the topic of neo-conservatism and was extremely influential in advancing the neo-conservative movement. "<
    continue -> What is Neo-Conservatism?




    Neoconservatism is the worldview developed by the journalist Irving Kristol and a small coterie of liberal intellectuals – including a number of university professors and literary figures – who had spent their formative years as Democrats but had grown disenchanted with President Lyndon Johnson's Great Society projects of the 1960s and felt “mugged” by the Democratic Party's leftward drift on defense issues in the 1970s. Initially, neoconservatives placed their hopes in Democratic Senator Henry "Scoop" Jackson as a Presidential candidate in 1976. But this centrist liberal -- “soft” on domestic policy, but a hardline opponent of the Soviet Union -- was rejected by his party, which had been taken over by the New Left in 1972. These intellectuals subsequently aligned themselves with Ronald Reagan and the Republicans, who pledged unapologetically to confront Soviet expansionism..."<
    Neo-Conservatism - Discover the Networks




    Neoconservative
    >" A political liberal was just a liberal in the 1930s and 1940s, but the reaction to Stalinism prompted a new type of liberal to surface on the political scene, and those liberals supported the Cold War. The term neoconservative was used to describe this group, and many of them were Jewish and emerging intellectuals that lived in New York City. Most of them considered themselves liberal democrats in the 1960s when the New Left or hippie movement in the US became a voice in the movement for American reform.

    The first intellectual to embrace neoconservative principles was Irving Kristol, who is considered the godfather of neoconservatives. He wrote about his beliefs in his 1979 book, Confessions of a True, Self-Confessed Neoconservative.

    Kristol's son, William, and Robert Kagan founded the Project for the New American Century in 1997, a think tank based in Washington D.C. which promotes the notion that American leadership is good for the world, and moral, as well. Such leadership, in fact, requires diplomatic energy, military strength and commitment to moral principle.

    The other important figure in the early neoconservative movement was Norman Podhoretz, the editor of Commentary Magazine from 1960 to 1965. Podhoretz wrote an article for the New York Times in 1982 titled "The Neoconservative Anguish over Reagan's Foreign Policy." That article left no doubt in anyone's mind; Podhoretz was a staunch member of the neoconservative movement..."<

    >" In the beginning, neoconservatives were more concerned with domestic policy than foreign policy thus strongly opposed the counterculture movement of the 1960s, which they blatantly called anti-Americanism. The Vietnam War served as the catalyst that separated the Democratic Party into two factions: the anti-war faction and the war-supporting neoconservatives.

    Today, neoconservatives advocate the use of American economic and military power to destroy enemies they perceive as threatening to American liberal democracy as well as liberal democracy in other countries. The change of focus initially occurred when the anti-war faction of the Democratic Party took control in 1972 by nominating George McGovern. The neoconservative faction rallied around Senator Henry Jackson and the "second age" of neoconservatism was born from the revolt. The focus was now on the Cold War.

    President Lyndon Johnson's New Left policies pushed the Democratic Party to the left, so the intellectuals in the neoconservative faction became disillusioned with his domestic agenda. Ben Wattenberg's 1970 book, The Real Majority brought out the point that the majority in the party actually supported social conservatism. The book also warned the party that liberal stances on crime and social issues could be disastrous.

    During the 1990s the neoconservative faction opposed the foreign policy decisions made by George H. W. Bush as well as Bill Clinton. Both presidents were criticized for lacking a sense of idealism and reducing military expenditures. Neocons berated both administrations for the lack of moral clarity and the lack of conviction to pursue American strategic interests on the world stage, issuing strategy papers meant to influence these presidents (and others), many of which are posted on the website of the Project for the New American Century..."<

    Definitions - The Daily Bell

  5. #505
    Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Last Seen
    05-04-15 @ 03:39 PM
    Lean
    Very Liberal
    Posts
    2,422

    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    G.W. Bush already had a reason to attack Iraq, the law that President Clinton signed into law, the "Iraq Liberation Act" of 1998.

    As usual the left don't like enforcing the laws that are on the books be it our immigration laws or the Iraq Liberation Act.

    But back in 2003 liberals were still scared of Muslims and started shaking and wetting their panties when they heard of Muslims with WMD's.

    SORRY

    The Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 is a United States Congressional statement of policy calling for regime change in Iraq.

    The Act declared that it was the Policy of the United States to support "regime change."


    NOTHING ELSE!

    CUBA? lol

  6. #506
    Sage

    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:14 AM
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    48,258

    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    I am neither left-wing nor right-wing and it is my opinion that he was a terrible President.
    Hell, I voted for him, but only once because I quickly realized my mistake.

  7. #507
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Behind the Orange Curtain
    Last Seen
    01-30-15 @ 12:29 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    15,633

    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by dad2three2001 View Post
    SORRY

    The Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 is a United States Congressional statement of policy calling for regime change in Iraq.

    The Act declared that it was the Policy of the United States to support "regime change."


    NOTHING ELSE!

    CUBA? lol
    In 2003 the mission was regime change.

    That mission was quickly accomplished by the U.S. military.

  8. #508
    Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Last Seen
    05-04-15 @ 03:39 PM
    Lean
    Very Liberal
    Posts
    2,422

    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    "Neocons Are Liberals Who Have Been Mugged by Reality"



    >" The terms neo-conservatism and conservatism are often used interchangeably, but the two have very different meanings. It may help to distinguish other forms of political ideology to explain what neo-conservative means. For example, the term “paleo” conservative represents the “Old Right” or traditional conservatives, while “neo” conservative refers to new or modern conservatives.


    The latter appears oxymoronic in that conservative means to conserve, or preserve, traditional ways or views. The terms new and traditional simply do not gel. What many find surprising is the fact that the man known as “the godfather of neo-conservatism” was politically left of center, although this fact does help clarify the issue. Using the term neo-conservative is rather like saying liberal-conservative.


    The man dubbed the godfather of neo-conservatism, Irving Kristol, was liberal but apparently couldn’t find what he was looking for on the left. He didn’t find it on the right either, so he essentially molded an ideology that combined various philosophies. He wrote more than one book of note on the topic of neo-conservatism and was extremely influential in advancing the neo-conservative movement. "<
    continue -> What is Neo-Conservatism?




    Neoconservatism is the worldview developed by the journalist Irving Kristol and a small coterie of liberal intellectuals – including a number of university professors and literary figures – who had spent their formative years as Democrats but had grown disenchanted with President Lyndon Johnson's Great Society projects of the 1960s and felt “mugged” by the Democratic Party's leftward drift on defense issues in the 1970s. Initially, neoconservatives placed their hopes in Democratic Senator Henry "Scoop" Jackson as a Presidential candidate in 1976. But this centrist liberal -- “soft” on domestic policy, but a hardline opponent of the Soviet Union -- was rejected by his party, which had been taken over by the New Left in 1972. These intellectuals subsequently aligned themselves with Ronald Reagan and the Republicans, who pledged unapologetically to confront Soviet expansionism..."<
    Neo-Conservatism - Discover the Networks




    Neoconservative
    >" A political liberal was just a liberal in the 1930s and 1940s, but the reaction to Stalinism prompted a new type of liberal to surface on the political scene, and those liberals supported the Cold War. The term neoconservative was used to describe this group, and many of them were Jewish and emerging intellectuals that lived in New York City. Most of them considered themselves liberal democrats in the 1960s when the New Left or hippie movement in the US became a voice in the movement for American reform.

    The first intellectual to embrace neoconservative principles was Irving Kristol, who is considered the godfather of neoconservatives. He wrote about his beliefs in his 1979 book, Confessions of a True, Self-Confessed Neoconservative.

    Kristol's son, William, and Robert Kagan founded the Project for the New American Century in 1997, a think tank based in Washington D.C. which promotes the notion that American leadership is good for the world, and moral, as well. Such leadership, in fact, requires diplomatic energy, military strength and commitment to moral principle.

    The other important figure in the early neoconservative movement was Norman Podhoretz, the editor of Commentary Magazine from 1960 to 1965. Podhoretz wrote an article for the New York Times in 1982 titled "The Neoconservative Anguish over Reagan's Foreign Policy." That article left no doubt in anyone's mind; Podhoretz was a staunch member of the neoconservative movement..."<

    >" In the beginning, neoconservatives were more concerned with domestic policy than foreign policy thus strongly opposed the counterculture movement of the 1960s, which they blatantly called anti-Americanism. The Vietnam War served as the catalyst that separated the Democratic Party into two factions: the anti-war faction and the war-supporting neoconservatives.

    Today, neoconservatives advocate the use of American economic and military power to destroy enemies they perceive as threatening to American liberal democracy as well as liberal democracy in other countries. The change of focus initially occurred when the anti-war faction of the Democratic Party took control in 1972 by nominating George McGovern. The neoconservative faction rallied around Senator Henry Jackson and the "second age" of neoconservatism was born from the revolt. The focus was now on the Cold War.

    President Lyndon Johnson's New Left policies pushed the Democratic Party to the left, so the intellectuals in the neoconservative faction became disillusioned with his domestic agenda. Ben Wattenberg's 1970 book, The Real Majority brought out the point that the majority in the party actually supported social conservatism. The book also warned the party that liberal stances on crime and social issues could be disastrous.

    During the 1990s the neoconservative faction opposed the foreign policy decisions made by George H. W. Bush as well as Bill Clinton. Both presidents were criticized for lacking a sense of idealism and reducing military expenditures. Neocons berated both administrations for the lack of moral clarity and the lack of conviction to pursue American strategic interests on the world stage, issuing strategy papers meant to influence these presidents (and others), many of which are posted on the website of the Project for the New American Century..."<

    Definitions - The Daily Bell
    A GUIDE TO THE POLITICAL LEFT? LOL

    Neo-Conservatism - Discover the Networks


    Discover the Networks (originally Discover the Network) is a website that focuses on the individuals, groups, and history of the political left wing (e.g., the network of tax-exempt groups and politicians funded by George Soros it collectively labels "The Shadow Party"). DtN was launched in 2004 by the David Horowitz Freedom Center and has a staff of about a dozen contributors.

    Discover the Networks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    WELL HECK YEAH, 'PROOF' ENOUGH FOR ME *shaking head*

    lol

  9. #509
    Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Last Seen
    05-04-15 @ 03:39 PM
    Lean
    Very Liberal
    Posts
    2,422

    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    In 2003 the mission was regime change.

    That mission was quickly accomplished by the U.S. military.
    Got it, NOT based on the 1998 statement of policy but instead by Dubya/Cheney twisting the intel to fit their needs!

  10. #510
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Behind the Orange Curtain
    Last Seen
    01-30-15 @ 12:29 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    15,633

    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by dad2three2001 View Post
    A GUIDE TO THE POLITICAL LEFT? LOL

    Neo-Conservatism - Discover the Networks


    Discover the Networks (originally Discover the Network) is a website that focuses on the individuals, groups, and history of the political left wing (e.g., the network of tax-exempt groups and politicians funded by George Soros it collectively labels "The Shadow Party"). DtN was launched in 2004 by the David Horowitz Freedom Center and has a staff of about a dozen contributors.

    Discover the Networks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    WELL HECK YEAH, 'PROOF' ENOUGH FOR ME *shaking head*

    lol
    Wikipedia

    WIKIPEDIA MAKES NO GUARANTEE OF VALIDITY

    Wikipedia is an online open-content collaborative encyclopedia; that is, a voluntary association of individuals and groups working to develop a common resource of human knowledge. The structure of the project allows anyone with an Internet connection to alter its content. Please be advised that nothing found here has necessarily been reviewed by people with the expertise required to provide you with complete, accurate or reliable information.

    Wikipedia:General disclaimer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    USE WIKIPEDIA AT YOUR OWN RISK

    PLEASE BE AWARE THAT ANY INFORMATION YOU MAY FIND IN WIKIPEDIA MAY BE INACCURATE, MISLEADING, DANGEROUS, ADDICTIVE, UNETHICAL OR ILLEGAL.

    Some information on Wikipedia may create an unreasonable risk for readers who choose to apply or use the information in their own activities or to promote the information for use by third parties.

    None of the authors, contributors, administrators, vandals, or anyone else connected with Wikipedia, in any way whatsoever, can be responsible for your use of the information contained in or linked from these web pages

    Wikipedia:Risk disclaimer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Reliability of Wikipedia

    Expert opinion
    Librarians' viewsIn a 2004 interview with The Guardian, self-described information specialist and Internet consultant[48] Philip Bradley said that he would not use Wikipedia and was "not aware of a single librarian who would. The main problem is the lack of authority. With printed publications, the publishers have to ensure that their data are reliable, as their livelihood depends on it. But with something like this, all that goes out the window."

    Academia
    Academics have also criticized Wikipedia for its perceived failure as a reliable source, and because Wikipedia editors may have no expertise, competence or credentials in the topic.[55][56] Adrian Riskin, a mathematician in Whittier College commented that while highly technical articles may be written by mathematicians for mathematicians, the more general maths topics, such as the article on polynomials are written in a very amateurish fashion with a number of obvious mistakes.[57]

    Because Wikipedia can not be considered a reliable source, the use of Wikipedia is not accepted in many schools and universities in writing a formal paper, and some educational institutions have banned it as a primary source while others have limited its use to only a pointer to external sources.

    Susceptibility to biasIndividual bias and the WikiScanner toolMain article:
    WikiScanner
    In August 2007, WikiScanner, a tool developed by Virgil Griffith of the California Institute of Technology, was released to match anonymous IP edits in the encyclopedia with an extensive database of addresses. News stories appeared about IP addresses from various organizations such as the Central Intelligence Agency, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, Diebold, Inc. and the (conservative led) Australian government being used to make edits to Wikipedia articles, sometimes of an opinionated or questionable nature
    Reliability of Wikipedia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    BTW:

    David Horowitz is a Red Diaper Baby. He may have been your leader back during the 60's and 70's since he was one of the top leaders of the Groucho Marxist aka Students for a Democratic Society, aka "new Left," In 1972 they came under the Democrat tent hiding behind the liberal label and when the dirtied that label they hide behind the progressive label today.

Page 51 of 81 FirstFirst ... 41495051525361 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •