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Was George W Bush a good president?[W:439:621]

Was George W Bush a good president?


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Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

It also resulted in W's Patriot Act, which gave license to violate the privacy of regular, innocent Americans.

W was incapable of articulate off-script speech - very embarrassing for a leader in his position.

For the first time in history America has created Constitution Free Zones and Free Speech Zones. This should raise a few alarms.
 
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As I said, they favored it as long as they didn't have to do anything for it.
I can't help but wonder just how many were conflating the invasion of Iraq and the attack on the WTC, and whether that totally unrelated war would have been so acceptable had the attack of 9/11 not taken place.

Well, whatever their reasons, they voted for it.
 
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Our actions do create more terrorists when we inflict collateral damage to innocent lives with cruise missiles and drones, rather than using bullets against a seen enemy. Both Clinton and Obama seem to be doing their best to create terrorists.

What a load of crap.
 
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It is absolutely related and will rank as the lowest point in American electorate history. Had the people elected a stronger and more experienced President many of these threads wouldn't even exist.

The original (2008) election of Barack Obama is related in that the electorate was sick and tired of Bush and ready to vote for any Notbush who was the least bit credible. How he was reelected remains a mystery to me, but that's just me.
 
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Well, whatever their reasons, they voted for it.

Yes, unfortunately, at least a majority of their elected representatives did vote for it.
 
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It is absolutely related and will rank as the lowest point in American electorate history. Had the people elected a stronger and more experienced President many of these threads wouldn't even exist.

Lol.

Your sour grapes are showing.
 
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Lol.

Your sour grapes are showing.

You appear to lack the wit or knowledge to actually debate. Seriously then, why are you involved in a debate forum?
 
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You appear to lack the wit or knowledge to actually debate. Seriously then, why are you involved in a debate forum?

I debate all the time. I just see little point in debating you or anyone whose default setting is "liberals bad 100% of the time."
 
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You appear to lack the wit or knowledge to actually debate. Seriously then, why are you involved in a debate forum?

Your ad hominem attack is duly noted, thus subtracting points from your credibility as a serious debater. Now, back to the original subject which was... what again? The war in Iraq. Oh, yes, that was it. Now, let's see.... we've established that the CIC who decided to invade was one George Bush, but that the Congress authorized the invasion, but stopped short of actually declaring war on anyone, thus subverting the Constitution. We've established that both Democrats and Republicans voted for the invasion, thus taking the partisan nonsense out of the debate. We've established that today's Iraq is an unholy mess after Obama followed the previously established withdrawal plan.

OK, that's about it. Carry on.
 
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I debate all the time. I just see little point in debating you or anyone whose default setting is "liberals bad 100% of the time."
And yet you read the posts and feel the need to respond. Why?
 
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Your ad hominem attack is duly noted, thus subtracting points from your credibility as a serious debater. Now, back to the original subject which was... what again? The war in Iraq. Oh, yes, that was it. Now, let's see.... we've established that the CIC who decided to invade was one George Bush, but that the Congress authorized the invasion, but stopped short of actually declaring war on anyone, thus subverting the Constitution. We've established that both Democrats and Republicans voted for the invasion, thus taking the partisan nonsense out of the debate. We've established that today's Iraq is an unholy mess after Obama followed the previously established withdrawal plan.

OK, that's about it. Carry on.

You know that was directed at Kobie and his tiresome one-liners, right?
 
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You know that was directed at Kobie and his tiresome one-liners, right?

Yes, I know, so only half as many good debater points have been subtracted.
 
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I debate all the time. I just see little point in debating you or anyone whose default setting is "liberals bad 100% of the time."

Where does he say that? I didn't read that. He was talking about the president, and he's right, so I don't know why you would pick that post to get your panties in a twist about. :roll:
 
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Yes, there are but, as many keep explaining, not all Muslims are terrorists. We would need to work with the democracies and, more importantly, those Muslims who are also fighting terrorism, who do not want Sharia Law imposed on them. But after we abandoned both Iraq and Afghanistan and left them to their own meager devices, can any Muslim leader really trust us anymore? And despite the reluctance of Americans to get involved the world still needs American leadership. We have to demonstrate that we are serious about this 'War On Terrorism" but so far we have not done that.

I don't agree with the war on the terror. I will say it is good to keep them on their toes and to scatter them and make it more difficult for them to collaborate, but it's still a wasteful "war."
 
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Where does he say that? I didn't read that. He was talking about the president, and he's right, so I don't know why you would pick that post to get your panties in a twist about. :roll:

He's right that re-electing Obama is the worst thing the American electorate has ever done?
 
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He's right that re-electing Obama is the worst thing the American electorate has ever done?

Well maybe not the worst, but it sure wasn't a GOOD thing, IMO. I find him to be quite ineffective, and many of us do not agree with a lot of his policy. That doesn't mean that people even think that he's "bad" (never mind liberals) but just not a good president.
 
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I don't agree with the war on the terror. I will say it is good to keep them on their toes and to scatter them and make it more difficult for them to collaborate, but it's still a wasteful "war."

But how can you scatter them without it being a war? That's like John Kerry saying it would an “unbelievably small, limited” effort, which is designed for domestic consumption rather than to strike terror into the hearts of any enemies. I also don't understand how it can be a 'wasteful war' if we want to rid the world of Islamist terrorism. I think many Muslims would want to side with the democracies in these efforts as well. I believe they are 'The Silent Majority|.
 
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He's right that re-electing Obama is the worst thing the American electorate has ever done?

That's my observation. Do you have another candidate?
 
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But how can you scatter them without it being a war? That's like John Kerry saying it would an “unbelievably small, limited” effort, which is designed for domestic consumption rather than to strike terror into the hearts of any enemies. I also don't understand how it can be a 'wasteful war' if we want to rid the world of Islamist terrorism.

Well because, I just don't think it's very effective and I don't believe we could ever come close to killing off the extremists, especially when we are creating more hate and resentment in the meantime.

I think many Muslims would want to side with the democracies in these efforts as well. I believe they are 'The Silent Majority|.

One would think so. I'm not sure, but I believe that Sharia Law is a part of their beliefs, or at least in some sects. I think a lot of them, especially those who live in the ME, WANT Sharia Law.
 
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Moderator's Warning:
It is absolutely related and will rank as the lowest point in American electorate history. Had the people elected a stronger and more experienced President many of these threads wouldn't even exist.

For the first time in history America has created Constitution Free Zones and Free Speech Zones. This should raise a few alarms.

Neither of these are on topic and has lead to derailing.

Y'all need to return to the topic. There is already an in-thread warning. Stick to discussing the topic: Was George Bush a good president?

And only that. Baiting, personal and off-topic comments will cause there to be less participants in the thread and/or points.
 
Electing George W. Bush twice. Hence, the topic if the thread.

Nobody said GWB was a good president, just that they can understand why he did the things he did at the time.
 
Nobody said GWB was a good president, just that they can understand why he did the things he did at the time.

I can't. I can't understand letting bin Laden escape Tora Bora then ginning up a war with Iraq for no discernible reason.
 
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