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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That isn't the media though. I should have been clear and said the media. They just LOVED Obama and hated Bush. There is no denying that little factoid.
    The media was complicit in the Iraq Invasion propaganda, by CNN's own admission.

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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    This does not prove they were lies either.
    So what were they? Let me know where the goal posts are.

    We're going to come around to the Obama goal posts when we're done.

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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    So what were they? Let me know where the goal posts are.

    We're going to come around to the Obama goal posts when we're done.
    Well they aren't lies unless you can prove that Saddam Hussein never had or never had any intentions on having chemical weapons. Why would anyone have a hard time believing that about Saddam? I don't get it? We gave him PLENTY of time to dispose of anything incriminating that he had.

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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    What was the false narrative, specifically?
    He lied about WMD , blood for oil , Halliburton no bid, he's stupid, great Bush recession, etc.

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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Well they aren't lies unless you can prove that Saddam Hussein never had or never had any intentions on having chemical weapons.
    So saying there is there is intelligence indicating something, when none actually exist, is not a lie?

    By the way, do you believe Obama lied about Benghazi?

    Careful.

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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    So saying there is there is intelligence indicating something, when none actually exist, is not a lie?

    By the way, do you believe Obama lied about Benghazi?

    Careful.
    I already stated they had plenty of time to get rid of any incriminating evidence. Just because we didn't FIND it, doesn't mean it never existed.

    I think Obama is a novice and ****ed up big time.

    And WHY would I have to be careful? That is extremely silly and juvenile behavior. If you wonder why I call myself a "moderate," it's because I am neither a republican nor a democrat and cannot agree with all of either party's platforms, and I find that I fall in the "middle" on a LOT of issues.

    Just because a person doesn't like Obama does not make her a republican.
    Last edited by ChrisL; 06-09-14 at 11:13 AM.

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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    Was George W Bush a good president?
    He got most of his legislative goals acheived. He was very effective in foreign policy. He wanted two wars and he got them and left both in good shape whether the next president wanted to carry them forward or not. There is broad agreement that he was one of the most consequential presidents ever what with the Patriot Act, the No Child Left Behind Act, Medicare Part D, the AIDS reiief program, and all of these programs have endured.

    He was a big government president and presided over the largest expansion of the federal government since the Great Society. I don't know why liberals don't love the guy. Most of what they don't like wasn't his fault.

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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    He was mediocre.



    I don't believe that he was mediocre, I see him as way below average, in the bottom third of all who have served.

    He's not the worst, but he's not that far above them.

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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Body armor is completely new to me. We didn't complain in Vietnam because we didn't have body armor. All we had were stinking flak jackets and if you were lucky they might stop a grenade fragment. Otherwise they slowed you down and you made grunting sounds when humping in the bush. Grunts grunted back then.

    Some of us wonder how todays body armor would work out in Vietnam when it's 120 degrees with 80% humidity ?

    The problem is, nobody has been able to figure out how to defeat IED's.



    Kill the people who put them there before they put them there.

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    Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I already stated they had plenty of time to get rid of any incriminating evidence. Just because we didn't FIND it, doesn't mean it never existed.
    The intelligence never existed, and what intelligence they did have they knew was unreliable. You're certainly giving a lot of leeway to Bush, when it comes to burden of proof. Do you afford the same to Obama?

    I think Obama is a novice and ****ed up big time.
    Okay.

    And WHY would I have to be careful?
    If you call Obama a liar, but not Bush, then we have an example of setting different standards and different goal posts. I don't know if you have called Obama a liar. Have you?

    Just because a person doesn't like Obama does not make her a republican.
    Never said you were.

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