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    Re: Should the media sensationalize (glorify?) mass shooters?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Should the media sensationalize (glorify?) mass shooters?

    Mass shootings seem to be increasing in frequency. As a matter of policy, not law, the media usually refrains from reporting suicides, so the precedent of self-policing is already there. Should the media adopt the same policy regarding mass shootings?

    It seems that many mass shooters believe they will become famous, though most never do beyond a few days after their event. Would lack of media attention possibly discourage potential mass shooters?

    The premise of the question presumes a voluntary policy shift from the media, not a legal restriction (and, yes, the 1st Amendment would preclude a legal restriction).
    The media report, what you want to read (and discuss ) .
    So the problem is the public buying silly stuff.

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    Re: Should the media sensationalize (glorify?) mass shooters?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Correct.

    But, if the premise is true, then doesn't that make the media complicit in future mass shootings?

    Not legally complicit, but morally complicit.

    The point should be more, why the media report such stuff. My suspicion is that that is what people buy.

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    Re: Should the media sensationalize (glorify?) mass shooters?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    That would be an accurate description. I think if the media had any morals they would refer to the shooter as suicidal loser and not air the losers name or photo
    The problem that I have with that idea is it then omits the emphasis on the criminal/nut leaving only the evil gun as the root cause of the situation. This tactic is used already for the anonymous urban gang thugs responsible for a good portion of gun crime; these gun crimes, while responsible for many more victims, are rarely reported except as aggregate statistics - making it appear that the guns alone cause gun crime.

    Only if the specifics are reported can one ever use logic in order to determine if a proposed (or existing) "gun control" law would be (or is) effective. Knowing that the "nut" or "criminal" was not known as such, prior to the reported "super crime", makes fools of those that pretend that if we only had better "gun control" laws then these crimes could have been prevented.
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    Re: Should the media sensationalize (glorify?) mass shooters?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    I doubt if the media sees it as "glorifying" the mass shooter, anymore than "glorifying" an errant jet pilot when reporting an airline crash. Perhaps the headline "suicidal loser seeks high body count in lame attempt to gain fame" would make you happier.
    I don't want to know the shooters name.

    After an incident like these the media repeats the name of the shooter so many times I know it just hearing it and what it is connected to.

    Years later I can associate the shooter with the incident just from listening to news reports during the incident.

    I don't want to know the shooters name and I don't want that stuck in my head.

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    Re: Should the media sensationalize (glorify?) mass shooters?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I agree 100%. But then again how do we stop them from reporting on such issues? No government can cuz it would be against the 1st amendment. If anything it will be have to be up to the journalists themselves.
    They can and must report on the incident, but they don't have to repeat the shooters name many times an hour nor do they need to dig into his background and making his name a household word.

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    Re: Should the media sensationalize (glorify?) mass shooters?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Should the media sensationalize (glorify?) mass shooters?

    Mass shootings seem to be increasing in frequency. As a matter of policy, not law, the media usually refrains from reporting suicides, so the precedent of self-policing is already there. Should the media adopt the same policy regarding mass shootings?

    It seems that many mass shooters believe they will become famous, though most never do beyond a few days after their event. Would lack of media attention possibly discourage potential mass shooters?

    The premise of the question presumes a voluntary policy shift from the media, not a legal restriction (and, yes, the 1st Amendment would preclude a legal restriction).
    You might find these interesting.

    The Media Needs to Stop Inspiring Copycat Murders. Here's How. - Zeynep Tufekci - The Atlantic


    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/18/op...=general&_r=1&
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    Re: Should the media sensationalize (glorify?) mass shooters?

    Both excellent articles. Thank you.
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    Re: Should the media sensationalize (glorify?) mass shooters?

    Anyway, if politicians could stop blaming video games for mass shootings, that would be awesome.
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    Re: Should the media sensationalize (glorify?) mass shooters?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Should the media sensationalize (glorify?) mass shooters?

    Mass shootings seem to be increasing in frequency. As a matter of policy, not law, the media usually refrains from reporting suicides, so the precedent of self-policing is already there. Should the media adopt the same policy regarding mass shootings?

    It seems that many mass shooters believe they will become famous, though most never do beyond a few days after their event. Would lack of media attention possibly discourage potential mass shooters?

    The premise of the question presumes a voluntary policy shift from the media, not a legal restriction (and, yes, the 1st Amendment would preclude a legal restriction).
    I think reporting should be balanced. There are two types of mass shootings. First is the individual who shoots lots of people and second are a mass of armed people shooting at one individual. For example, when the Boston bomber Tsarnev was in the boat, a mass of police officers fired over two hundred rounds into the boat even though they had not been fired upon. Many instances of groups of cops shooting suspects 20 or more times. I have a little trouble differentiating between these events. The cops all shoot so that only one cop won't be found guilty of a perhaps unncessary shooting. I don't think the cop shootings, of this nature, get the required press, and otoh, the individual mass shootings do get exaggerated press. I would prefer balance.

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    Re: Should the media sensationalize (glorify?) mass shooters?

    Resurrecting this thread in the hopes that this angle as a possible solution (at least in part) can be discussed further.

    I don't want to start a new thread because I think a lot of great were made here already and they shouldn't be lost.
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