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Thread: Do you assume ppl are racist if they want to make it hard for others races to vote?

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    Do you assume ppl are racist if they want to make it hard for others races to vote?

    Not because they don't want people of other races to vote because they don't like their race. Rather they want to make it harder for certain ethnic groups to vote because its almost a given they will vote for candidates they oppose.

    I have a friend who privately acknowledged to me he supports efforts to make it difficult for certain minorities to vote because as he calls it, "a quick [political] death" would occur that would essentially permanently end the election our party to national office. He thinks however if the political opposition is kept from having total dominance by any means including making it difficult for certain ethnic groups vote, hopefully a political rock star with a charismatic personality will eventually arise and give our party a much needed reinvigoration. This provided we can maintain plausible deniability this has been a strategy.

    His support for efforts to make it hard for people of some ethnic groups to vote is not driven by dislike for their race. He has no problem with different races. He just wants his political team to not become extinct. If they voted for his political team he would be all about helping them vote. He also firmly believes if shoe was on the other foot, he thinks his opposition party would take his exact position.

    BTW: I don't think my friend has a racist bone in his body but like a lot of people when it comes to politics, is severely lacking in principle.
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    Re: Do you assume ppl are racist if they want to make it hard for others races to vot

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    Re: Do you assume ppl are racist if they want to make it hard for others races to vot

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    Re: Do you assume ppl are racist if they want to make it hard for others races to vot

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    People. Exceeded the allowed number of characters.

    I'll let it slide this once...
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    Re: Do you assume ppl are racist if they want to make it hard for others races to vot

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Not because they don't want people of other races to vote because they don't like their race. Rather they want to make it harder for certain ethnic groups to vote because its almost a given they will vote for candidates they oppose.

    I have a friend who privately acknowledged to me he supports efforts to make it difficult for certain minorities to vote because as he calls it, "a quick [political] death" would occur that would essentially permanently end the election our party to national office. He thinks however if the political opposition is kept from having total dominance by any means including making it difficult for certain ethnic groups vote, hopefully a political rock star with a charismatic personality will eventually arise and give our party a much needed reinvigoration. This provided we can maintain plausible deniability this has been a strategy.

    His support for efforts to make it hard for people of some ethnic groups to vote is not driven by dislike for their race. He has no problem with different races. He just wants his political team to not become extinct. If they voted for his political team he would be all about helping them vote. He also firmly believes if shoe was on the other foot, he thinks his opposition party would take his exact position.

    BTW: I don't think my friend has a racist bone in his body but like a lot of people when it comes to politics, is severely lacking in principle.

    I dispute the entire premise of this thread, and call you out for your dishonesty.

    Nobody is trying to make it harder for certain races to vote. That's a wrong-wing lie, that you apparently have chosen to try to perpetuate.

    You're obviously referring to the controversy over whether voters should be required to provide credible identification when voting, and to the wrong-wing claim that those who support such measures are doing so only to suppress black votes, as if it is somehow more difficult for a black voter to obtain suitable identification than for a voter of any other race.
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    Re: Do you assume ppl are racist if they want to make it hard for others races to vot

    The "I have nothing against blacks, its just that they vote wrong" excuse is still racism. However, I do support presenting a valid, state issued, photo ID bearing the name and address of the registered voter. I do not support other restrictions on the days/hours of polling place operation intended to limit the vote.
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    Re: Do you assume ppl are racist if they want to make it hard for others races to vot

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    I dispute the entire premise of this thread, and call you out for your dishonesty.
    Nobody is trying to make it harder for certain races to vote. That's a wrong-wing lie, that you apparently have chosen to try to perpetuate.

    You're obviously referring to the controversy over whether voters should be required to provide credible identification when voting, and to the wrong-wing claim that those who support such measures are doing so only to suppress black votes, as if it is somehow more difficult for a black voter to obtain suitable identification than for a voter of any other race.
    Wrong on booth counts.

    The bigger question is, is it racist.
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    Re: Do you assume ppl are racist if they want to make it hard for others races to vot

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Not because they don't want people of other races to vote because they don't like their race. Rather they want to make it harder for certain ethnic groups to vote because its almost a given they will vote for candidates they oppose.

    I have a friend who privately acknowledged to me he supports efforts to make it difficult for certain minorities to vote because as he calls it, "a quick [political] death" would occur that would essentially permanently end the election our party to national office. He thinks however if the political opposition is kept from having total dominance by any means including making it difficult for certain ethnic groups vote, hopefully a political rock star with a charismatic personality will eventually arise and give our party a much needed reinvigoration. This provided we can maintain plausible deniability this has been a strategy.

    His support for efforts to make it hard for people of some ethnic groups to vote is not driven by dislike for their race. He has no problem with different races. He just wants his political team to not become extinct. If they voted for his political team he would be all about helping them vote. He also firmly believes if shoe was on the other foot, he thinks his opposition party would take his exact position.

    BTW: I don't think my friend has a racist bone in his body but like a lot of people when it comes to politics, is severely lacking in principle.
    It has often seemed a good idea in human history to silence the opposition and it works very nicely, where the military and police back the leader.

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    Re: Do you assume ppl are racist if they want to make it hard for others races to vot

    I'm not sure I'd call it racism. It makes you a ****ty person, no doubt, but I don't think it's racism.
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    Re: Do you assume ppl are racist if they want to make it hard for others races to vot

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The "I have nothing against blacks, its just that they vote wrong" excuse is still racism. However, I do support presenting a valid, state issued, photo ID bearing the name and address of the registered voter. I do not support other restrictions on the days/hours of polling place operation intended to limit the vote.
    Do you think opposing Puerto Rico statehood and/or targeting early voting days for closure to coincide with when a significant turnout from black voters show up in Churches buses on Sunday after church SPECIFICALLY because these minority groups vote democrat, is racist?
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