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Thread: Do you assume ppl are racist if they want to make it hard for others races to vote?

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    Re: Do you assume ppl are racist if they want to make it hard for others races to vot

    Black people tend to talk in movie theaters and black people don't pay their cell phone bills. These are two subjects we watched at a comedy club performance we went to this weekend. The difference with this if it were said during a serious discussion on a Sunday talk show we would hear about it on the nightly news. So is it not one, the context and two the premise that in part define what is racist intent? If you read the words in a news article uttered during the show and there was no reference to them coming from a comedy show it would be intolerable.

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    Re: Do you assume ppl are racist if they want to make it hard for others races to vot

    Voter suppression is nothing more than FOLKLORE from the likes of the Democratic Slave Plantation and the MSNBC HATE MACHINE.

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    Re: Do you assume ppl are racist if they want to make it hard for others races to vot

    I assume people who start threads about race are racist...to at least some extent.

    As far as I am concerned, there is only one race...the human race.

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    Re: Do you assume ppl are racist if they want to make it hard for others races to vot

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    I assume people who start threads about race are racist...to at least some extent.

    As far as I am concerned, there is only one race...the human race.
    He never started a discussion board thread on race relations but with the technology available to him in his day Dr. Martin Luther King. Jr. brought his concerns of racial injustice to the spotlight and spoke of race relations way more than anyone I've seen discuss it online. Was Martin Luther King a racist for taking a leadership role in the Civil Rights Movement?
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    Re: Do you assume ppl are racist if they want to make it hard for others races to vot

    Ok try out this hypothetical comparison...

    An individual is heavily invested in beef in every way as it pertains to a specific area, but not invested at all in chicken.
    The individual hears that African Americans eat more chicken and less beef than White Americans.
    The individual also owns a huge portion of the housing in this area.

    The individual decides to refuse housing to African Americans in favor of moving in more beef buying White Americans.
    The individual really does not give a crap about skin color at all. It is purely a business decision, a way to make more profit.

    The net result is that he makes more money and the decision pays off.
    The net result is also that he discriminated against a race.
    The race is hurt either way, regardless of his reasons.
    This makes him a racist.

    When Republicans remove voting polls and increase voting lines in black communities, when they eliminate early voting on Sundays when the black churches did their mass early voting, and all of the countless tricks they did to attempt to reduce the African American impact on the vote... The Republicans were not trying to be Racists.
    The Republicans did not truly care what color anyone was. They simply wanted to win.
    But in the end, the net result is that they were racists and their actions were racist.

    Intent is half of it. But effect is the other half.

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    Re: Do you assume ppl are racist if they want to make it hard for others races to vot

    That's not racist. As others have said, it is a dick thing to do, but not racism. Racism requires that you are treating someone different according to their race because you believe that race is inferior to yours and/or other races.

    Now, it could be considered negative racial stereotyping and/or prejudicial/biased behavior, but not racism.

    One of my instructors told us that he always viewed racism as involving actual hate or at least contempt specifically toward a particular race, not the perceived/stereotyped actions of that race. It doesn't make treatment of people based on those perceptions right or something to be ignored or allowed to thrive, especially in a professional environment, school, work, etc.. But something isn't necessarily racist just because it involves a race or can be connected to a race in some negative way.
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    Re: Do you assume ppl are racist if they want to make it hard for others races to vot

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Do you think opposing Puerto Rico statehood and/or targeting early voting days for closure to coincide with when a significant turnout from black voters show up in Churches buses on Sunday after church SPECIFICALLY because these minority groups vote democrat, is racist?
    We should cut Puerto Rico loose completely. The simple fact that they're not demanding independence makes them suspect. Puerto Rico is a luxury we can no longer afford.

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    Re: Do you assume ppl are racist if they want to make it hard for others races to vot

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    He never started a discussion board thread on race relations but with the technology available to him in his day Dr. Martin Luther King. Jr. brought his concerns of racial injustice to the spotlight and spoke of race relations way more than anyone I've seen discuss it online. Was Martin Luther King a racist for taking a leadership role in the Civil Rights Movement?
    I said people who start threads...as in the present tense...not 45+ years ago. Besides, there were no internet chat forums with threads 45+ years ago.

    And I stand by what I typed. IMO, racism will never end so long as people keep thinking of people as 'races' and not as just 'people'.

    You started the thread - that means you do think of people as 'races' (not that you are alone in that - the majority probably do as well...sadly).


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    Re: Do you assume ppl are racist if they want to make it hard for others races to vot

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    We should cut Puerto Rico loose completely. The simple fact that they're not demanding independence makes them suspect. Puerto Rico is a luxury we can no longer afford.
    That's not going happen. Puerto Ricans are patriotic Americans who have fought and died in every American war since 1917. One of our Supreme Court Justices' parents were born in Puerto Rico. Another thing is most Puerto Ricans live on the US mainland now but have loved ones on the island. Independence would create immigration barriers that would adversely affect Puerto Ricans. Statehood is far more likely and I think probable.
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    Re: Do you assume ppl are racist if they want to make it hard for others races to vot

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakeside View Post
    Voter suppression is nothing more than FOLKLORE from the likes of the Democratic Slave Plantation and the MSNBC HATE MACHINE.
    Republican leaders said in proposing the law that it was meant to save money and fight voter fraud. But a former GOP chairman and former Gov. Charlie Crist, both of whom have been ousted from the party, now say that fraud concerns were advanced only as subterfuge for the law’s main purpose: GOP victory.

    Former Republican Party of Florida Chairman Jim Greer says he attended various meetings, beginning in 2009, at which party staffers and consultants pushed for reductions in early voting days and hours.

    “The Republican Party, the strategists, the consultants, they firmly believe that early voting is bad for Republican Party candidates,” Greer told The Post. “It’s done for one reason and one reason only. … ‘We’ve got to cut down on early voting because early voting is not good for us,’ ” Greer said he was told by those staffers and consultants.

    “They never came in to see me and tell me we had a (voter) fraud issue,” Greer said. “It’s all a marketing ploy.”


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