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Has Obama been a good President?

Has Obama been a good President?

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Kobie said:
LOL what?

Ray's post was rife with things that simply aren't true. For starters, separating "the liberals" from "The traditionalist Americans, who built this country," as if no liberal has ever contributed anything toward building American society. It's complete hyperpartisan claptrap. I'm sorry if dismissing it is "fascist" to you. That's one of the most absurd things I've ever read.
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You are fighting conservative strawmen in your mind right now, not substantively replying to his post.
 
US Conservative said:
What presidents have been to the left of Obama? And I believe its wide-eyed, not wild eyed.
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Wild-eyed - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

Carter, LBJ.

US Conservative said:
You are fighting conservative strawmen in your mind right now, not substantively replying to his post.
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Ray410 is a conservative strawman? I didn't say anything about conservatives as a whole. I addressed him specifically, about his post. Period.
 
Kobie said:
Also nonsense. I can do this all day.

So no "liberal"* has ever contributed to "building this country"? And be specific -- what exactly about "all that America was" do I have "hatred" for? Indulge me. Take me down that road.

* -- I use "liberal" in quotation marks since I have a feeling we're not talking about actual liberals, but rather the caricature of them in your head.
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Certainly it is difficult for you and various other Liberal extremists to accept that any success you may have finally gained under Obama was only achieved by the destruction of the culture that existed, but that is the nature of what has taken place.

America has gone from a country of soaring eagles and charging lions to an angry, dependent culture of strictly enforced speech controls and political correctness. That is your Liberal success under Obama. That and endless rage and name calling.
 
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Ray410 said:
Certainly it is difficult for you and various other Liberal extremists to accept that any success you may have finally gained under Obama was only achieved by the destruction of the culture that existed, but that is the nature of what has taken place. America has gone from a country of soaring eagles and charging lions to an angry, dependent culture of strictly enforced speech controls and political correctness. That is your Liberal success. That and endless rage and name calling.
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You did not answer either of my questions. I am not particularly surprised.

It absolutely amazes me how many of you guys seem to think that America was some utopia until Jan. 20, 2009.
 
Henrin said:
How? What did Carter or LBJ believe that Obama doesn't?
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I think Carter was not nearly the corporate stooge that Obama is, and I think he was to the left of Obama on foreign policy.

LBJ pushed through the biggest civil rights and anti-poverty programs since the Great Depression.
 
Ray410 said:
Certainly it is difficult for you and various other Liberal extremists to accept that any success you may have finally gained under Obama was only achieved by the destruction of the culture that existed, but that is the nature of what has taken place. America has gone from a country of soaring eagles and charging lions to an angry, dependent culture of strictly enforced speech controls and political correctness. That is your Liberal success. That and endless rage and name calling.
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Dude, we get it, you're not allowed to be racist anymore.

How sad for you.

You know for someone who's so publicly shown disdain for mixed marriages, and essentially calling them child abusers, you complaining about name calling is pretty rich.
 
Kobie said:
I think Carter was not nearly the corporate stooge that Obama is, and I think he was to the left of Obama on foreign policy.
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Ok.

LBJ pushed through the biggest civil rights and anti-poverty programs since the Great Depression.
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So? I would imagine Obama supports all of those things.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Dude, we get it, you're not allowed to be racist anymore.

How sad for you.

You know for someone who's so publicly shown disdain for mixed marriages, and essentially calling them child abusers, you complaining about name calling is pretty rich.
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"Dude?"

Hahaha.
 
pbrauer said:
One problem with Obama was it took him four years to figure out the Republicans would never compromise with him.
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A good president can get his agenda signed into law. He can unite both sides, thats nearly always requisite for a President. I think Obama has proven a poor leader even just amongst his own party, let alone the republicans.

Do you see how integral to your crying about republicans is an admission of the impotence and incompetence of Obama?
 
Yet another US Conservative poll in which I cannot participate, as I am neither left or right.

Anyway, he certainly isn't the worst President we have ever had, nor even the worst in my lifetime, but he has been weak and ineffective. I believe that history will not be kind to him.
 
Kobie said:
On some things he's been good, on some things he's been OK, on some things he's been terrible.
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care to expand on the good things?:doh look I agree with about 50% of what you said which good has he done?
 
radcen said:
Yet another US Conservative poll in which I cannot participate, as I am neither left or right.

Anyway, he certainly isn't the worst President we have ever had, nor even the worst in my lifetime, but he has been weak and ineffective. I believe that history will not be kind to him.
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Who is your worst in your lifetime?
 
US Conservative said:
A good president can get his agenda signed into law. He can unite both sides, thats nearly always requisite for a President. I think Obama has proven a poor leader even just amongst his own party, let alone the republicans.

Do you see how integral to your crying about republicans is an admission of the impotence and incompetence of Obama?
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Top Republicans met on January 20, 2009 the very day Obama became president and decided they would make a one term president. Didn't work.

Robert Draper Book: GOP's Anti-Obama Campaign Started Night Of Inauguration
 
votemout said:
care to expand on the good things?:doh look I agree with about 50% of what you said which good has he done?
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DADT gone, bin Laden dead, kept the economy from continuing to crater, rescued the U.S. auto industry, advanced nuclear non-proliferation efforts. Off the top of my head.
 
Kobie said:
I think Carter was not nearly the corporate stooge that Obama is, and I think he was to the left of Obama on foreign policy.

LBJ pushed through the biggest civil rights and anti-poverty programs since the Great Depression.
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Hmmm carter bailed out how many more corporate and banking industries ? First thing LBJ did was nullify Executive order 11110 that was signed into law by JFK.

research it a little Kobie.
 
Obama has been a bad President.

(I deliberately mis-voted in the poll. I said I was right leaning and that he was a good President. If it had just asked yes or no I would have voted truthfully.)
 
votemout said:
Hmmm carter bailed out how many more corporate and banking industries ? First thing LBJ did was nullify Executive order 11110 that was signed into law by JFK.

research it a little Kobie.
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No, he didn't. 11110 stayed on the books until 1987.
 
pbrauer said:
Top Republicans met on January 20, 2009 the very day Obama became president and decided they would make a one term president. Didn't work.

Robert Draper Book: GOP's Anti-Obama Campaign Started Night Of Inauguration
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When has the opposition party not offered opposition? Should they forget about the districts or states they represent because of Obama?

Beyond that, Obama has hardly received cooperation from his own party. How do you explain that?

We need a president who is strong enough that people like you dont need to make constant excuses for.
 
Kobie said:
DADT gone, bin Laden dead, kept the economy from continuing to crater, rescued the U.S. auto industry, advanced nuclear non-proliferation efforts. Off the top of my head.
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What law gave him the power to rescue the auto industry? he does not have that power and you know it, he signed into law something congress an the house passed he would be a bigger a hole if he did not pass the law. stopped the economy from cratering, how actually? he again does not have that power. signed laws that congress and the house passed. DADT? great be an open homosexual :laughat: and he weakened this nation great just when other nations feel like they are bigger and better.
 
US Conservative said:
When has the opposition party not offered opposition? Should they forget about the districts or states they represent because of Obama?
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It's un-American to stonewall for no other reason than to make the president's job more difficult. Especially since Obama inherited an economic ruin, and people were suffering.
 
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