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    Re: Has Obama been a good President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Obama voted against the Iraq invasion. Seems he was the leader you needed, after all.
    Obama was a state senator in Illinois in 2002 when they voted on the Iraq invasion. No, he didn't vote "against the Iraq invasion". The Illinois state senate didn't have the opportunity to vote either way.

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    Re: Has Obama been a good President?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Obama was a state senator in Illinois in 2002 when they voted on the Iraq invasion. No, he didn't vote "against the Iraq invasion". The Illinois state senate didn't have the opportunity to vote either way.
    Okay, but he was against it from the beginning.

    Barack Obama (who went on to win the election) was not a senator at the time of the voting of the Iraq War Resolution, but has repeatedly voiced his disapproval of it both before and during his senatorship, saying at an anti war rally in Chicago on October 2, 2002: "I am not opposed to all wars. I’m opposed to dumb wars."

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    Re: Has Obama been a good President?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Obama was a state senator in Illinois in 2002 when they voted on the Iraq invasion. No, he didn't vote "against the Iraq invasion". The Illinois state senate didn't have the opportunity to vote either way.
    True, but he did oppose it and his voting record once elected to the US Senate supports this thesis.

    HowStuffWorks "Voting Record of Barack Obama: National Security and the Economy"

    *In 2007, Obama voted in favor of restoring habeas corpus to detainees in American custody (S. Amendment 2022) [source: Project Vote Smart].

    *He voted against a successful bill in 2007 which funded the Iraq War without including a timetable for withdrawal (H.R. 2206) [source: The Washington Post].
    In 2007, he voted against another successful bill which gave $120 billion in funding for the Iraq War (vote 181), but voted for two different votes on a separate failed bill (HR 1591), which appropriated similar amounts for the Iraq War but included timetables for American troop withdrawals [source: The Washington Post].

    *He voted in favor of HR 4939 in 2006, which granted $67 billion in emergency funding to the Department of Defense [source: Obama Senate].

    *Obama voted against the Military Commissions Act of 2006, (S. 3930) which granted legal immunity for CIA officials involved in acts of torture, outlawed certain acts of torture by U.S. agents, and barred detainees labeled enemy combatants from protesting their incarceration. He voted in favor of an amended version of this bill (S. Amdt. 5095), which included Congressional oversight of some CIA programs [source: *U.S. Senate].

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    Re: Has Obama been a good President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Okay, but he was against it from the beginning.
    Your statement that Obama voted against the Iraq invasion was false.

    I was against Iraq too. That's irrelevant. Neither Obama nor I voted against the invasion.

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    Re: Has Obama been a good President?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Your statement that Obama voted against the Iraq invasion was false.

    I was against Iraq too. That's irrelevant. Neither Obama nor I voted against the invasion.
    I'm not an Obamatologist, and I occasionally make mistakes. Thanks for correcting me!

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    Re: Has Obama been a good President?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post


    Has Obama been a good president to this point?
    Not a fan of a lot of his policies. What I think will be the thing that people remember the most about this administration isn't the "scandals" but rather the inaction and/or lack of answers that have come from most of them.

    Still waiting on someone to answer for Solyndra and the IRS.

    A lot of questions still remain about Benghazi.

    It seems that the President and those closest to him are all for the photo opp and media attention when it is something that will put them in a positive light but yet are pretty much MIA when it is something that could have a negative affect on the admin.

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    Re: Has Obama been a good President?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    That's irrelevant.
    And that's what's referred to somewhat derisively as a debate point. Did the President oppose the war or not?

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    Re: Has Obama been a good President?

    Quote Originally Posted by beer guru View Post
    1.Not a fan of a lot of his policies. What I think will be the thing that people remember the most about this administration isn't the "scandals" but rather the inaction and/or lack of answers that have come from most of them.

    2.Still waiting on someone to answer for Solyndra and the IRS.

    A lot of questions still remain about Benghazi.

    3. It seems that the President and those closest to him are all for the photo opp and media attention when it is something that will put them in a positive light but yet are pretty much MIA when it is something that could have a negative affect on the admin.
    1. So far so good. I'm not a fan of many of his policies either. And, inaction is definitely an Obama trait. However, scandals are not one of the issues lacking action. His have been some of the least serious scandals plaguing administrations in recent history.
    Richard Nixon had the Watergate scandal. Ronald Reagan had Iran-Contra. Bill Clinton had the Monica Lewinsky affair. George Bush had controversies over warrantless wiretapping, response to Hurricane Katrina, and Plamegate. Warren G. Harding apparently wasn't a trendsetter in the 1920s with the Teapot Dome Scandal, which occurred during his first term (which he didn't complete ... Harding died in August 1923 of a heart attack).
    President Obama appears to be following trend of scandal-plagued second terms | cleveland.com
    Obama's stuff pales in comparison.

    2. Solyndra, IRS and Benghazi...seriously? Come on. There is not a whole lot of there there, IMO. Ask Darrel Issa---lord knows he could not prove a thing.

    3. True

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    Re: Has Obama been a good President?

    Quote Originally Posted by plutonium View Post
    dang the bro killed bin laden (biggest criminal since hitler to america) and that aint good enough!!!!! Ran more illegals out than any president!!! Got women equal pay in gov jobs!!! Obama is hated because of his color first and being a demo second....no reason to put our heads in the sand about it
    race card !!!!!!! Drink !!!!!!!!

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    Re: Has Obama been a good President?

    wHaa... srory to durnk from race crads to reed... wass goin on/ issit time to drik agin/
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