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    Re: Has Obama been a good President?

    Being able to suss Obama from day 1 shows great perspicacity, and history has borne it out.
    Vindication despite the deadender fanboys.

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    Re: Has Obama been a good President?

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Being able to suss Obama from day 1 shows great perspicacity, and history has borne it out.
    Vindication despite the deadender fanboys.
    In other words, you're fully in favor of intractable obstructionism.
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    Re: Has Obama been a good President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    In other words, you're fully in favor of intractable obstructionism.
    It depends on what the other side is offering if I'm in favor of obstruction. As it stands, Obama and the democrats have deserved to get nothing for their efforts. Offer something that isn't unconstitutional tripe and maybe we can talk.

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    Re: Has Obama been a good President?

    Someone mentioned obstructionism ...

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    Re: Has Obama been a good President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    It depends on what the other side is offering if I'm in favor of obstruction. As it stands, Obama and the democrats have deserved to get nothing for their efforts. Offer something that isn't unconstitutional tripe and maybe we can talk.
    Partisans' definition of "constitutional" tends to change depending on the party in the Oval Office.
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    Re: Has Obama been a good President?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Great, now we're getting somewhere. I agree with that too. The republicans have been obstructionists, but I believe it is part of the President's job to quell that, not to add fuel to the fire for the sake of party politics. His foremost concern should be what is best for the country as a WHOLE.
    What has the president done to add fuel to the fire of obstructionism? Just curious.

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    Re: Has Obama been a good President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Partisans' definition of "constitutional" tends to change depending on the party in the Oval Office.
    Having our political system monopolized by the "right" or the "left" is the biggest problem we have IMO. I don't believe either party represents MOST Americans' interests. It's big money politics, and neither of them really care about America, only their parties and who is going to line their pockets.

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    Re: Has Obama been a good President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    What has the president done to add fuel to the fire of obstructionism? Just curious.
    His complete attitude towards the other party is unacceptable for a sitting president. His dismissive attitude of them is just ONE example of many.

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    Re: Has Obama been a good President?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    1. Other presidents have been able to cross this gap and get things accomplished. No, Obama's own behavior and arrogance plays a role in this as much as the republicans own arrogance.
    2. No, this last fiasco with releasing the detainees was done without the approval of Congress, as were several other actions IIRC. Especially this newest event rests squarely on the shoulders of Obama.
    3. I've never seen a sitting president display such blatant arrogance towards the opposing party, as well as all who disagree with his idealistic views.
    1. No, it doesn't. I promise you it doesn't, and that in the real world of real power and real politics that it never could. Despite what the media tells you, the dramas and personalities of politics have almost nothing to do with the realities of power. I wouldn't lie about that.

    2. There are no good options, either in terms of America's own safety and Obama's personal political interests. Obama simply chose one; it didn't really matter which because they all sucked completely. If he allowed the soldier to die or pursued several other options, Republicans would have criticized him just as harshly because its 100% in their political interest to undermine Obama as leader.

    (3) Then you aren't paying attention, because every Republican from Capital Hill the to the meanest rural small town dishes and out and returns ideological arrogance three-fold. The entire economy of right-wing opinion pundit entertainment relies and depends on the arrogance of the core personalities in order to generate the cash flow needed to get the pay checks they need to feed their families. 'Arrogance' is a great source of wealth.

    In both cases, the arrogance is irrelevant except as a sign of something deeper and more evil in human nature.
    Last edited by Morality Games; 06-08-14 at 10:39 AM.
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    Re: Has Obama been a good President?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    His complete attitude towards the other party is unacceptable for a sitting president. His dismissive attitude of them is just ONE example of many.
    Not sure what you mean. Obama came in with an agenda to implement Republican-based ideas for healthcare reform, rejecting the liberals' pleas for socialized medicine. When Bohener negotiated with the president, he generally got most of what he wanted for the GOP. On national security, Obama continued with much of the same policies as the previous administration.

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