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    Re: Has Obama been a good President?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Obviously you don't know what "lying" is. Really pathetic dude.
    So I said Obama should be in the "POTUS hall of fame," or that I "love him." That's a blatant misrepresentation of everything I posted in the thread. In other words, a lie.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Has Obama been a good President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    So I said Obama should be in the "POTUS hall of fame," or that I "love him." That's a blatant misrepresentation of everything I posted in the thread. In other words, a lie.
    That's my opinion of you. If you don't like it, too bad.

    How about, instead of trying to derail the thread with your crap about slogans, you stick to the issues I raised about Obama and the reasons WHY I said he was a bad president.

    1. He is divisive as hell. I've never SEEN such division in our country as I see today.
    2. He has absolutely no diplomacy at ALL. His foreign policy is just awful.
    3. He is arrogant as HELL.
    Last edited by ChrisL; 06-08-14 at 09:45 AM.

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    Has Obama been a good President?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That's my opinion of you. If you don't like it, too bad.

    How about, instead of trying to derail the thread with your crap about slogans, you stick to the issues I raised about Obama and the reasons WHY I said he was a bad president.

    1. He is divisive as hell. I've never SEEN such division in our country as I see today.
    2. He has absolutely no diplomacy at ALL. His foreign policy is just awful.
    3. He is arrogant as HELL.
    For the time being, I'd rather stick to pointing out how you've misrepresented my posts. Shamelessly.
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    Re: Has Obama been a good President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    For the time being, I'd rather stick to pointing out how you've misrepresented my posts. Shamelessly.
    Please, you've done pretty much nothing but behave like a partisan hack with your defense of Obama's campaign promises by making it sound as if they were just "slogans." You are transparent. I certainly hope you don't think you're fooling anyone.

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    Re: Has Obama been a good President?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That's my opinion of you. If you don't like it, too bad.

    How about, instead of trying to derail the thread with your crap about slogans, you stick to the issues I raised about Obama and the reasons WHY I said he was a bad president.

    1. He is divisive as hell. I've never SEEN such division in our country as I see today.
    2. He has absolutely no diplomacy at ALL. His foreign policy is just awful.
    3. He is arrogant as HELL.
    1. The Republicans will be divisive about any President who isn't Republican because the (1) the gains they've made for corporate power in the past couple decades are at stake and (2) their continuing existence as a competitive party at the national level is as stake. Every non-Republican President *must* be a failure at any cost if the Republicans or their ideology are to have a future.

    2. I would ask for specific examples, but it doesn't matter. Obama's foreign policy has everything to do with the position of the United States, not with Obama personally or whatever ideals he may or may not have. The position of the United States in the free world is pretty much what Obama's position is right now: we can't command respect because the circumstances no longer allow it, there is no longer a single overriding threat to the Western world that can make every country put their differences aside and accept the overarching authority of a single power. Our President has the same problem.

    3. All humans are arrogant as hell; wretched and conceited too. The way you've expressed your opinions about our commander-and-chief is arrogant. However, such behaviours have become commonplace.
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    Re: Has Obama been a good President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    1. The Republicans will be divisive about any President who isn't Republican because the (1) the gains they've made for corporate power in the past couple decades are at stake and (2) their continuing existence as a competitive party at the national level is as stake. Every non-Republican President *must* be a failure at any cost if the Republicans or their ideology are to have a future.

    2. I would ask for specific examples, but it doesn't matter. Obama's foreign policy has everything to do with the position of the United States, not with Obama personally or whatever ideals he may or may not have. The position of the United States in the free world is pretty much what Obama's position is right now: we can't command respect because the circumstances no longer allow it, there is no longer a single overriding threat to the Western world that can make every country put their differences aside and accept the overarching authority of a single power.

    3. All humans are arrogant as hell; wretched and conceited too. The way you've expressed your opinions about our commander-and-chief is arrogant. However, such behaviours have become commonplace.
    1. Other presidents have been able to cross this gap and get things accomplished. No, Obama's own behavior and arrogance plays a role in this as much as the republicans own arrogance.
    2. No, this last fiasco with releasing the detainees was done without the approval of Congress, as were several other actions IIRC. Especially this newest event rests squarely on the shoulders of Obama.
    3. I've never seen a sitting president display such blatant arrogance towards the opposing party, as well as all who disagree with his idealistic views.

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    Re: Has Obama been a good President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    For the time being, I'd rather stick to pointing out how you've misrepresented my posts. Shamelessly.
    Grow up and grow a pair.

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    Re: Has Obama been a good President?

    I think that with the congress that he has had to work with, yes. He's done admirably. I do however think that this has been the worst congress this country has seen in a long time, and the fact we have not gone completely belly up is a god damn miracle.
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    Re: Has Obama been a good President?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    1. Other presidents have been able to cross this gap and get things accomplished. No, Obama's own behavior and arrogance plays a role in this as much as the republicans own arrogance.
    2. No, this last fiasco with releasing the detainees was done without the approval of Congress, as were several other actions IIRC. Especially this newest event rests squarely on the shoulders of Obama.
    3. I've never seen a sitting president display such blatant arrogance towards the opposing party, as well as all who disagree with his idealistic views.
    I've also never seen an opposition party declare from day 1 their goal was to destroy a sitting, duly elected President by any means at their disposal.
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    Re: Has Obama been a good President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I've also never seen an opposition party declare from day 1 their goal was to destroy a sitting, duly elected President by any means at their disposal.
    Great, now we're getting somewhere. I agree with that too. The republicans have been obstructionists, but I believe it is part of the President's job to quell that, not to add fuel to the fire for the sake of party politics. His foremost concern should be what is best for the country as a WHOLE.

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