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    Re: Has Obama been a good President?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Kobie has quite a bit of emotional investment in this president.
    Yes, I'm so emotionally invested in him that when 2012 rolled around, I voted third party. Maybe you should pay more attention to what I actually post, rather than what you want to see.
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    Re: Has Obama been a good President?

    It is nice to see the Liberals on here struggling with Obamas broken promise of "Hope and Change".

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    Re: Has Obama been a good President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    He DID "change" things, did he not? Just maybe not the things each specific voter wanted "changed."

    By this absurd rationale, even one broken campaign promise means the overall "Hope and Change" SLOGAN was somehow "broken." I put that in quotes because you can't break a campaign slogan. I seriously cannot understand why you're having so much trouble differentiating between the two. This has nothing to do with being "invested in Obama," as you so absurdly claimed earlier in the thread. This has to do with understanding the fundamental difference between types of political rhetoric.



    Yes, words have meaning. And "slogan" and "promise" do not mean the same thing.
    Yup, sure, he is an AWESOME president. AWESOME!!! If there is a hall of fame for POTUSes, he needs to be there!!!

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    Re: Has Obama been a good President?

    Anyways, I'm out of here. Have a good night everyone!

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    Re: Has Obama been a good President?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Yup, sure, he is an AWESOME president. AWESOME!!! If there is a hall of fame for POTUSes, he needs to be there!!!
    Because that's what I obviously said. I see now you're resorting to abject misrepresentation and strawmanning of everything I've posted in this thread. Congratulations; I should have known better.
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    Re: Has Obama been a good President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakeside View Post
    It is nice to see the Liberals on here struggling with Obamas broken promise of "Hope and Change".
    It's nice to see another person who doesn't know the difference between a campaign slogan and a campaign promise.
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    Re: Has Obama been a good President?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Agreed.

    For example, the sitting President has pretty much zero influence over gas prices, but they still get the credit if prices go down or the blame if prices go up.

    The sitting President has a little more influence over the economy in general, but not near the influence that most people seem to think. It's a minor influence and usually delayed in effect.
    Exactly, a president can control the economy like he can the weather. But as you say, presidents get all the glory during good economic times and all the boo's and blame during bad economic times. If a president or government could control the economy, we would never experience a down turn let alone a bad economy. Sometime meddling in the economy, your delayed effect means that it takes longer for us to bottom out and longer for the economy to rise if nothing was done at all. But that is to be debated and economic theories are just that theories.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Has Obama been a good President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    It's nice to see another person who doesn't know the difference between a campaign slogan and a campaign promise.
    Like I said, it sure is fun watching Liberals struggling with the broken promise of "Hope and Change". They are still clinging to the LIAR in CHIEFS broken promise.

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    Re: Has Obama been a good President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakeside View Post
    Like I said, it sure is fun watching Liberals struggling with the broken promise of "Hope and Change". They are still clinging to the LIAR in CHIEFS broken promise.
    Right on, man.
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    Re: Has Obama been a good President?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I'll never forget when he said to John McCain, something on the idea of "well, I'm the president, not you." It just struck me as EXTREMELY arrogant, in bad taste for a sitting president, and very juvenile.

    To be clear, this was during his first term when there were some televised arguments about health care. The republicans were trying to introduce their plan at the time.
    Inexperience maybe? After all his total experience in government was just 2 years as a senator. But he was right, during his first two years in office and when Obamacare was first passed, he and the Democrats didn't need a single Republican vote. That is until Brown took over Kennedy's seat. Perhaps Obama thought the Democrats would always maintain those huge advantages.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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