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    Re: Why am I insensitive or racist if I find this wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    They wouldn't know what to do with hygien products. Haven't you ever used a toilet in Mexico ?
    you aren't racist if you oppose illegal immigration. You might be if your reaction to giving kids hygiene products is a post like this.

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    Re: Why am I insensitive or racist if I find this wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    One doesn't have be racist to be against illegal immigration...but many (or perhaps most) who are the most vocal against illegal immigration are racist at least to some extent.

    That said, illegal immigration is illegal...but there's only one way to fix it - and that's not with a wall or cracking down on employers or lining the border with armed troops or forcing illegal immigrants (and especially their children) to hide in the shadows all their lives. The ONLY way to stop illegal immigration is to somehow make Mexico's economy successful (and safe) to the point to where the people no longer feel the need to come here to feed their families. Otherwise, they will always find a way here, wall or no wall. The proof lay in the fact that during the Great Recession and the two years or so afterwards, we had zero net illegal immigration - just as many were going home as were coming here.

    That's the only way. Period.

    Do that, and there will be no need to build a taxpayer-funded wall or line the border with taxpayer-funded troops or both. But what is to be done with the ones that are already here, who are living peaceful and productive lives, who ARE paying taxes and are NOT presenting a danger to society? Give them a pathway to citizenship. Tearing families apart is not the American way.

    Build up Mexico's economy to where the people no longer feel the need to flee - that's the only way to fix illegal immigration. Period.
    Wrong. That exact line of BS, virtually identical propaganda is how the American government sold NAFTA to the American people. You won't be able to float that nonsense a second time.
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    Re: Why am I insensitive or racist if I find this wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    People support illegal immigration?
    It does seem so
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Why am I insensitive or racist if I find this wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Identity fraud doesn't work the way you think it does. You're more likely to be robbed of your identity by an apple pie eating American than a Mexican. As a matter of fact, identity theft is of no use to the overwhelming majority of illegal immigrants. If anything, an illegal immigrant stealing your identity wouldn't benefit them in the long run. As technology becomes more widely used to verify identities, an illegal immigrant who steals your identity would be paying taxes towards your retirement and not theirs. If anything, we should pass a law that REQUIRES the SSA to notify citizens when their SSN is being used in multiple places, E-Verify should be made mandatory in all 50 states and punished by jailtime and states should give their local law enforcement agencies (PD) the power to fine companies not complying.
    I think you would be surprised just how much identity theft and fraud is used among the illegal alien population. And the IRS refuses to report or inform the people who's identities are stolen that their SSN's are being used in multiple places.

    Center for Immigration Studies ~ Illegal, but Not Undocumented

    I do agree however that e-verify should be mandatory, that the IRS should be made to inform people when their SSN's are being used in multiple places, and that companies should be fined heavily with non-compliance.
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    Re: Why am I insensitive or racist if I find this wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    One doesn't have be racist to be against illegal immigration...but many (or perhaps most) who are the most vocal against illegal immigration are racist at least to some extent.

    That said, illegal immigration is illegal...but there's only one way to fix it - and that's not with a wall or cracking down on employers or lining the border with armed troops or forcing illegal immigrants (and especially their children) to hide in the shadows all their lives. The ONLY way to stop illegal immigration is to somehow make Mexico's economy successful (and safe) to the point to where the people no longer feel the need to come here to feed their families. Otherwise, they will always find a way here, wall or no wall. The proof lay in the fact that during the Great Recession and the two years or so afterwards, we had zero net illegal immigration - just as many were going home as were coming here.

    That's the only way. Period.

    Do that, and there will be no need to build a taxpayer-funded wall or line the border with taxpayer-funded troops or both. But what is to be done with the ones that are already here, who are living peaceful and productive lives, who ARE paying taxes and are NOT presenting a danger to society? Give them a pathway to citizenship. Tearing families apart is not the American way.

    Build up Mexico's economy to where the people no longer feel the need to flee - that's the only way to fix illegal immigration. Period.
    1: Illegal aliens come from more countries than just Mexico. You would have to improve every 3rd world countries economy to do what you suggest to stop or at least drastically slow illegal immigration. An impossible task and one which we do not have the resources to do.

    2: Many countries that actually enforce their illegal immigration laws have far less of a problem than we do...despite the fact that their economies are just as good, or better than ours.
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    Re: Why am I insensitive or racist if I find this wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    People support illegal immigration?
    Lots of people do. Just look at all the parades that have been held that favor illegal aliens.
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    Re: Why am I insensitive or racist if I find this wrong?

    This was a conversation that was off the forums that sparked this. Yes it's sad that ppl live in poor conditions, but they also need to come here legally. Dropping off thousands of illegal immigrants( and it's still happening) and telling us to deal with it is not the solution! Illegal immigrants having the entitlement.... "What are you going to give us now that we're here"-attitude doesn't fly either!

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    Re: Why am I insensitive or racist if I find this wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sababa View Post
    you aren't racist if you oppose illegal immigration. You might be if your reaction to giving kids hygiene products is a post like this.
    These aren't my kids.
    These aren't Americas kids.
    These kids aren't my problem or should they become America's problem.

    These kids aren't good for America.

    The Obama administration is openly violating the law.
    Catch and release is against the law.

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    Re: Why am I insensitive or racist if I find this wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Lots of people do. Just look at all the parades that have been held that favor illegal aliens.
    Are you sure that don't support immigration reform? That would be something completely different.
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    Re: Why am I insensitive or racist if I find this wrong?

    **** no on both accounts.

    I've been saying this for a while now: we need to Israelize the Southern Border.

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