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    Less Government vs. Better Government

    Which do you feel is more important: A government that is smaller, or a government that can solve important problems more effectively?

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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Less government.

    'Better' and 'government' are contradictions in terms.

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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Which do you feel is more important: A government that is smaller, or a government that can solve important problems more effectively?
    A government that is smaller doesn't guarantee that it will be better in any way. It could be worse.
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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Sadly its hard to imagine government doing much right. DMV, post office, and even the military is rather poorly run. I don't mean to say we don't need them, or that we should eliminate them all its just that people don't take pride in what they do and don't care if its done well. There is a belief (I think justified) that its nearly impossible to get fired from the grubbynutt. You almost have to be a convicted criminal (and sometimes thats' not enough) to get fired. Look at billy jeff who engages in a sexual twist with an intern - if a corporate CEO had done that he'd have been canned but we glorify it, excuse it, and don't think much of even lying about it under oath.

    My wife works for the VA. She has a co worker (mental health pro) who's having issues of her own, and for the past 6 months they've paid her full time and not let her see a single veteran patient. WTF; put her on disability already and move on. These are common occurrences in government which causes people to want "less" government.

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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Which do you feel is more important: A government that is smaller, or a government that can solve important problems more effectively?
    Less Gov't is better Gov't.

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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Which do you feel is more important: A government that is smaller, or a government that can solve important problems more effectively?
    You have a false underwritten premise that the two are mutually exclusive.
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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Which do you feel is more important: A government that is smaller, or a government that can solve important problems more effectively?
    This is like asking - better cancer or less cancer? Neither is a cure-all, considering the way government has morphed and the types of people who run for and get elected to public office.

    If you could eradicate about 90% of what government currently does at the moment, and revert back to basic principles and basic reasons for citizens to collectively negotiate and fund certain enterprises, you might get somewhere. Virtually impossible at this point - there are two many special interests and two many politicians without the integrity to resist them.
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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    You have a false underwritten premise that the two are mutually exclusive.
    Not at all, it's a matter of where your ideological priorities are.

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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    This is like asking - better cancer or less cancer?
    If you believe that government is analogous to cancer, then obviously you'd choose less government, rather than better government.

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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Which do you feel is more important: A government that is smaller, or a government that can solve important problems more effectively?
    I would say the two go hand in hand. A large government with many laws and departments and agencies results in many more bureaucrats and hoops to jump through. A smaller government is more streamlined and more likely to be efficient, specializing in its limited roles more effectively than spreading itself everywhere.
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