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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Unless the big government is better and the small government is populated entirely by small-minded, sociopathic people.
    It seems to me that it is more likely a sociopath would desire a big government than a small government. You can easily charm people into thinking the power that the government is taking for itself is for the best, but it's bit hard to charm people and at the same say we will do nothing for your complaint or say, sorry, we don't have the power to do what you want.

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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    It seems to me that it is more likely a sociopath would desire a big government than a small government. You can easily charm people into thinking the power that the government is taking for itself is for the best, but it's bit hard to charm people and at the same say we will do nothing for your complaint or say, sorry, we don't have the power to do what you want.
    Unless I misunderstood the premise of the thread, the OP was asking if we would opt for a larger government if it functioned well, or a smaller government that might not. There are infinity threads on the topic of government being bad and too big, and personally I have zero interest in participating in another one of those.

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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    It seems to me that it is more likely a sociopath would desire a big government than a small government. You can easily charm people into thinking the power that the government is taking for itself is for the best, but it's bit hard to charm people and at the same say we will do nothing for your complaint or say, sorry, we don't have the power to do what you want.
    Our government WAS small at one time, and it probably functioned just fine. I wonder if you saw the link I posted earlier in this thread with all of the governmental agencies? It's just outrageous how many "agencies" we have. I see no reason at all why we couldn't streamline and get rid of some of these agencies. That would save us money and time.

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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Unless I misunderstood the premise of the thread, the OP was asking if we would opt for a larger government if it functioned well, or a smaller government that might not. There are infinity threads on the topic of government being bad and too big, and personally I have zero interest in participating in another one of those.
    Yes, it's a trick question designed so that if you would prefer a smaller government, it's made to sound as if it isn't going to be good.

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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Our government WAS small at one time, and it probably functioned just fine. I wonder if you saw the link I posted earlier in this thread with all of the governmental agencies? It's just outrageous how many "agencies" we have. I see no reason at all why we couldn't streamline and get rid of some of these agencies. That would save us money and time.
    Like HOA's? Those things do function (generally) on its primary objective, that being keeping real estate values up, but God those people can be bastards.

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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Like HOA's? Those things do function (generally) on its primary objective, that being keeping real estate values up, but God those people can be bastards.
    Never had to deal with one myself. I don't think I would move to a neighborhood like that.

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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Yes, it's a trick question designed so that if you would prefer a smaller government, it's made to sound as if it isn't going to be good.
    It's only a "trick question" insofar as it's supposed to make you explore where your true values lie, or if not that then how black-and-white your principles may be.

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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    It's only a "trick question" insofar as it's supposed to make you explore where your true values lie, or if not that then how black-and-white your principles may be.
    I disagree. It's obvious that it's the OPs personal bias against small government. He is pro big government, and this was done on purpose so that if you pick "small" government it seems as if you are picking a less effective government. Well, that's not the case. I think that a smaller government would function much more efficiently.

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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Never had to deal with one myself. I don't think I would move to a neighborhood like that.
    I don't personally have to deal with one myself either, but I have multiple family members who do. Depending on the area they can vary from common sense rules to stepping into an Orwellian nightmare. They're set up so that home owners can maintain their real estate values while not being powerless in the face of that one neighbor who wants to keep his car on cinder blocks while playing techno til 4am, but on the flip side HOA's can also start establishing (and yes, enforcing) bull**** rules on what color your mailbox can be and demanding that all lawns be perfectly green (in spite of drought) and that they must all be 8.2287cm in height. No, I wouldn't want to live in a place like that either.

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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I disagree. It's obvious that it's the OPs personal bias against small government. He is pro big government, and this was done on purpose so that if you pick "small" government it seems as if you are picking a less effective government. Well, that's not the case. I think that a smaller government would function much more efficiently.
    So he has a bias, so what? He's still allowed to challenge someone else's views. That in itself doesn't constitute a "trick question." Being able to entertain a hypothetical that doesn't conform to your beliefs on how the world works is the sign of a flexible mind.

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