View Poll Results: Less Government or Better Government?

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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Taking money from one person to give to another for their sustenance is not the purpose of government.
    Only your opinion and most debatable.
    I have read the term...promoting the general welfare.....are we speaking of the people or the nation....or simply the wealthy ?

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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Less G is better G.

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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    I have read the term...promoting the general welfare.....are we speaking of the people or the nation....or simply the wealthy ?
    I'd say the People and the nation are basically the same thing in this context, and the wealthy are a part of the People. A lot of things are done to promote their welfare, but many on the Right don't seem to realize that.

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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Only your opinion and most debatable.
    I have read the term...promoting the general welfare.....are we speaking of the people or the nation....or simply the wealthy ?
    Why don't you read what the authors said about it?
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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    It's up to each citizen to maximize their life, not the govt.
    NO
    What it takes is a cooperative effort from business, church, the people, and government - working together, to improve things for ALL or us !
    Who runs this show ?
    the people
    Who is the conductor ?
    the government
    Who has the good ideas ?
    business
    And, YES, even church plays a role .. .. when they remember the words from Jesus.
    And, IMO, if all was "perfect", we would NOT need government...only "church" .

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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Why don't you read what the authors said about it?
    If the "general welfare" of a nation's people is NOT in black and white ..it should be ..
    Remember, these things are written by "man", who is NOT perfect !
    Thus , frankly, I am NOT impressed by what the "authors" have written.
    And, American, I would suggest that, YOU, do some reading.

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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Less G is better G.
    And, IF "man" was perfect, we should not need a government .............
    So, IMO, what we do need is a better people, then a better government.

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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Which do you feel is more important: A government that is smaller, or a government that can solve important problems more effectively?
    I voted better government, though I do believe a decentralized system is better fitting for a democracy (your vote goes further in a city of 1,000,0000 than it does in a country of 350,000,000). And by decentralized I don't mean "less" but more local.
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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Less G is better G.
    Do we then take that to its logical conclusion and claim no government is best?
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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Serious View Post
    NGOs (Non-Government Organizations).
    So, we have business and church play larger roles, and government - less .
    This does sound good .. and it may have worked well for hundreds of years.. I think ..

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