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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    I would say the two go hand in hand. A large government with many laws and departments and agencies results in many more bureaucrats and hoops to jump through. A smaller government is more streamlined and more likely to be efficient, specializing in its limited roles more effectively than spreading itself everywhere.
    What if a government is too small to tackle a problem that society wants solved? Then it is not a better government, it is a smaller government for the sake of being small.

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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Which do you feel is more important: A government that is smaller, or a government that can solve important problems more effectively?
    You're question assumes that 1: a bigger government is more effective and 2: that a smaller government cannot be effective. In reality though a small government can be just as effective as a larger government at solving important problems. Your question is also subjective. "Important problems" can be purely subjective as what is important to you may not be important to someone else.
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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    You're question assumes that 1: a bigger government is more effective and 2: that a smaller government cannot be effective. In reality though a small government can be just as effective as a larger government at solving important problems. Your question is also subjective. "Important problems" can be purely subjective as what is important to you may not be important to someone else.
    Again, there is no assumption in the question, and larger government isn't specified.

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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Less govt IS better govt.

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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Again, there is no assumption in the question, and larger government isn't specified.
    Yes, there is, and while "larger government" isn't specified it is implied by stating "A government that is smaller, or...". It is that "or" when combined with "smaller" that makes the implication. Whether you meant it or not, that is the effect of your post. It is further reinforced in your subsequent posts when you state things like "What if a government is too small" such as in your post# 11.
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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Yes, there is, and while "larger government" isn't specified it is implied by stating "A government that is smaller, or...". It is that "or" when combined with "smaller" that makes the implication. Whether you meant it or not, that is the effect of your post. It is further reinforced in your subsequent posts when you state things like "What if a government is too small" such as in your post# 11.
    I'm afraid you're mistaken. What I said was that if you focus on making government small, rather than effective, then your goal is not to solve society's problems. Which may or may not be in line with your ideology.

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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Which do you feel is more important: A government that is smaller, or a government that can solve important problems more effectively?
    False dichotomy.

    It's not a choice between smaller government or better government.

    Smaller government is better government.

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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    A government that is smaller doesn't guarantee that it will be better in any way. It could be worse.
    Perhaps, but a government being bigger does unalterably guarantee that it will be worse.
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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    What if a government is too small to tackle a problem that society wants solved? Then it is not a better government, it is a smaller government for the sake of being small.
    At this point, we are not anywhere close to being in any danger of seeing a government that is too small.

    But the primary error in your query here is the presumption that government is the best way to solve most problems. It most certainly is not, as is easily proven by looking at the vast majority of instances where we call upon government to solve problems. Most times, the result is the same: Government ends up creating more problems, worse than what it was supposed to solve, while doing very little to mitigate the original problem.
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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    For the government to ignore needs and issues that they have the tools to address in the name of small government alone isn't necessarily better for the country's well being and populace. Efficiency and practicality should be the goal of modern governments, not blind principle and bumper sticker sloganeering.

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