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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    When you get down to it, none that I can see. At least between the big "L" libertarians and anarchists.
    that's silly. Libertarians believe that government is essential to resolve disputes among citizens, to provide for national defense, etc. Anarchists do not



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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    When you get down to it, none that I can see. At least between the big "L" libertarians and anarchists.
    Maybe libertarians believe in very small unobtrusive government, while anarchists believe in no government at all.

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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    That is an interesting dichotomy. What in the world makes you think that a larger government can solve important problems more effectively?
    Apparently I suck at asking questions, but to clarify the confusion, larger government wasn't presented as an option. The choice is between a government that is small, or a government that can solve problems effectively. It is a question of ideological priority -- smaller or better.

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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Apparently I suck at asking questions, but to clarify the confusion, larger government wasn't presented as an option. The choice is between a government that is small, or a government that can solve problems effectively. It is a question of ideological priority -- smaller or better.
    I think a smaller government would be able to solve problems more effectively. That's half the problem, I believe, is that our government is humongous and just keeps growing and growing, like an evil monster that eats money.

    Also, you say you believe our government lied to us and went to war, yet you want MORE government? That's insanity dude. INSANITY.

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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    When you get down to it, none that I can see. At least between the big "L" libertarians and anarchists.
    Wow, its clear you have not done your homework.

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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    We weren't a first world nation then, try again. You are comparing pre-industrialization to today's economy / world. It's an absurd comparison. Moreover, you must be arguing that a libertarian government was one that tolerated slavery, wholesale genocide of native peoples, and so on.
    In the later half of the 19th century we were industrialized first world and did not need the government we have now.

    The increase of government did not begin with needs it began with ideas which were percieved as well intentioned Such as income tax. At first it was strictly for the wealthiest ten % of the population and only ten% of those peoples income. And look at it now.

    Government increases in size and power are always predicated on doing something better not solving a problem. But they always make things worse and create more problems.

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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Maybe libertarians believe in very small unobtrusive government, while anarchists believe in no government at all.
    Thats how I see it. Libertarians believe there are legitimate functions of govt-however they are minimal.

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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I think a smaller government would be able to solve problems more effectively. That's half the problem, I believe, is that our government is humongous and just keeps growing and growing, like an evil monster that eats money.
    That's conservative lingo.

    Also, you say you believe our government lied to us and went to war, yet you want MORE government? That's insanity dude. INSANITY.
    Oh, you guys are just messing with me now.

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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Which do you feel is more important: A government that is smaller, or a government that can solve important problems more effectively?
    Personally, the answer is "both."

    Barring a crisis of some sort, I'd prefer an unobtrusive and streamlined government which is only so large as is strictly necessary to function in a competent manner.

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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    That's conservative lingo.
    Goodness, that is nothing but the truth! Are you denying it?



    Oh, you guys are just messing with me now.
    How so? Did you or did you not say that you believed our government lied to us and led us into a war based upon nothing but lies? Now, you say that you think you would like an even BIGGER government. Wow is all I can say. WOW!

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