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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Soupnazi630 View Post
    It would be better and yes that is garunteed.

    Government is always first and last an instrument of force which means violence. The less the better. Sometimes it is necessary and justified such as select wars ( but not all wars ).

    The more it grows the more force and violence is spread wo others within and outside the borders of the nation being governed.
    So what you are essentially telling me is that small government is incapable of corruption? I believe there is some African dictators that would snicker at that notion.
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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Less government is better government.

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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    My post is self-explanatory. If you have a problem with it you're going to have to point it out to me.




    No, I don't err and I'm not making an assumption. If a government is not large enough to meet the size of a particular problem, then it's too small. There's no way around this without playing word games.



    A government could have too small of a military. It could be too small to deal with natural disasters. It could be too small to maintain rule of law. It could be too small to deal with poverty.
    You illustrate my point exactly. Sure a government may be too small to deal with natural disasters or poverty. But that does not mean the government is less efficient if other non-governmental organizations would be better at dealing with such problems. The assumption of yours that I am disputing is that government is efficient at solving most problems. In reality, a smaller government with larger non-government organizations would be a better solution.
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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Not sure what you're referring to, exactly. The "too small" remark is in the context of government being inadequate for a particular problem. Shrinking government for the sake of ideology, rather than practicality, ultimately leads to this scenario.
    You haven't got a clue of the truth of that, because it's never happened in the history of the US.
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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Which do you feel is more important: A government that is smaller, or a government that can solve important problems more effectively?
    Countries with smaller governments are more prosperous. The bigger the government, the more special interest groups seek favor, and the bigger the corruption . The bigger the government comes with it mountains of red tape and over-bloated bureaucracies which are inefficiently run and overreach in power and often infringe on states rights. Hello Department of Education, hello Department of Energy, hello EPA, hello IRS. The bigger the government the greater individuals/business are regulated. Regulations are hidden taxes which are passed onto the unsuspecting public. Ultimately the biggest problem of all becomes big government for it is what creates the problems in the first place.

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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Less government is better government.
    Unless the big government is better and the small government is populated entirely by small-minded, sociopathic people.

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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    "It" actually being:

    The life outcomes of the least fortunate is very often a measurement of the effectiveness of government.

    Outcomes....different than circumstance born into.



    Your inability to read and comprehend the difference between outcome and pre-existing circumstance is the issue....and instead of correcting yourself, re-reading and understanding WHAT I WROTE, you dig in and continue with your folly of misunderstanding.

    It has been CLEARLY explained to you, if you choose to continue to follow your failure of understanding, there is no one to blame but yourself.
    That's not the purpose of govt.
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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You haven't got a clue of the truth of that, because it's never happened in the history of the US.
    It's a very easy thought experiment. I don't know why people have trouble with it. A government that is 90% smaller has to allocate its resources accordingly (if military is a primary concern, then those resources go towards military spending). Now keep increasing the percentage.

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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    It's a very easy thought experiment. I don't know why people have trouble with it. A government that is 90% smaller has to allocate its resources accordingly (if military is a primary concern, then those resources go towards military spending). Now keep increasing the percentage.
    Why are you having trouble with it?
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    Re: Less Government vs. Better Government

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Why are you having trouble with it?
    With what?

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