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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Obviously referring to Prisoners of war.


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    I agree - AWOL, POW, MIA, KIA.

    There are branches that are dedicated purely to reconnaissance and reclaiming individuals even if they were KIA and buried long ago.

    If they are an American citizen and have deserted their post, etc, they should be brought home and this analyzed and decided based on interviews, investigation, trial - whatever. It's up to us to keep rule over our own people, it's not up to them.

    If injustice is suspected then we must apply our own law.

    Of course, hankering to do so is sort of at the bottom of the concern list - and in regard to Berghdahl, I have a feeling there's much more to 'the deal' that a cut and dry 5 for 1. I'm curious as to what in the hell he told them - and whether or nto someone like that should remain in foreign possession is really what should be discussed.
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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    This was a surrender plain and simple.

    We handed over the leaders of a regime that we refused to recognize after they usurped power. That legitimizes them. That's us saying "you win. We lose".

    So they threatened to kill Bergdahl? What are they doing with the rest of our troops? Delivering fruit baskets?

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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    The more I hear about his case the more I think you would have to be a real dickhead to charge him.
    It could be a dickish move. But justice is justice. And if the military wants to see him charged with something they have every right to do so.


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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    While the kid may have been AWOL or be a deserter, the US government isn't exactly squeaky clean on how we have handled the "terrorists" we have been holding for years and years with no due process.

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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    I respect McCain, but I also despise the man and what he has become. Respect and hate are not mutually exclusive. I will happily drag his name through the mud for what he is now, politics has always been and always will be a what have you done for me, or to me, now venture, and anyone who gets into it will get muddy. Its the nature of the beast. To be blunt politics these days are tame. It aint anywhere close to what it was. It doesn't lessen my respect for what McCain has done as a military man. I respect him as a military man. I doubt I have the intestinal fortitude to deal with what he did for as long. I don't know because I have never been there. But the man earned my respect as a man in that regard with his deeds then. When the **** hits the fan I would have no problem being in the same foxhole with him. I believe that he holds America in high esteem. That said you wouldn't catch me at a party with him though. As a politician, he hasn't earned anything but enmity from me. So it gives me great joy to kick the politician McCain around. In politics its no quarter asked and no quarter given. Its just business. Though everyone these days takes it personally it seems.
    I understand, I retired from the army in 1986 and I canít fathom what John McCain went through as a POW, none of any POW in any war either. That is something one must experience to really have an understanding of it. Knock McCain all you want for his job as a senator and for his political beliefs. That is fair game and expected. There is way too much of the politics of personal destruction to suit my fancy today. I firmly believe a campaign should be about ideas, visions, and solutions to problems, not what someone did 30 years or more years ago.

    It is just someone saying McCain was a traitor, that just rubbed me the wrong way. So I took a break and put on a Barney Miller DVD, I own all eight seasons and that put me back into the proper mood. I usually do not let anything said on DP bother me, most of the things said here just roll off my back. But for some reason I just thought that went too far in ones attempt to defend Bergdahl and the swap. Attack or challenge McCain on his statements on the swaps all one wants, I am not sure whether he is for or against it myself, maybe he isnít sure himself. But that is fair game, that is politics, that is what should be done. Not to go back to his POW days and say he was a traitor just because one holds a different political view. Anyway, that is my opinion.

    Thanks for the calming post. I appreciate it.
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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Except deserters...they can rot in hell.
    Liberalismódividing up the EARNED wealth of honest, hard working and ingenious AMERICANS and giving it to the leeches who would rather waste their worthless lives living off the government teat.
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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by voyager1 View Post
    While the kid may have been AWOL or be a deserter, the US government isn't exactly squeaky clean on how we have handled the "terrorists" we have been holding for years and years with no due process.
    You should take a trip to that little island paradise on the coast of Cuba. Better conditions than any US prison.

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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    You should take a trip to that little island paradise on the coast of Cuba. Better conditions than any US prison.
    We are no better then Iran or China.

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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by voyager1 View Post
    While the kid may have been AWOL or be a deserter, the US government isn't exactly squeaky clean on how we have handled the "terrorists" we have been holding for years and years with no due process.
    Sorry, but I have to ask. Who's "due process"?

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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by voyager1 View Post
    We are no better then Iran or China.
    Two more places you have never been.

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