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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    You don't free five potential terrorists.
    You just send in Stallone.



    And Arnie, don't forget Arnie with his choppa.

    He'd clean their clock.

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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    How valuable are 5 beardsters who haven't even been to Afghanistan in over a decade?

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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    If the only way to get them back is to negotiate and make deals with terrorist organizations (either directly or indirectly) then, were I POTUS, then I am afraid that they would regrettably be left behind...though a physical extraction would never be off of the table.

    I believe that you NEVER make deals with terrorists...either stall for time until you can kill the terrorists/free the hostages through force or ignore them.

    But never make deals.

    Otherwise you just encourage other terrorists to capture others.
    The best statement to make is you will kill the prisoners yourself if you find them instead of extracting them. It makes the point with emphasis that you wont negotiate with them. It also makes capturing prisoners a pointless exercise. They would be of no value.
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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Mine?
    You don't have one, do you?

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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Are you kidding? John McCain was offered a chance to go home by the North Vietnamese for propaganda reasons. His father was CINCPAC. He told the North Vietnamese he would leave after all of those POW's who were caught before left, in other words when his turn came. James Stockdale who was our VP nominee spoke very highly of John McCain during their stints as POW's.

    This is what disgusts me about partisan politics. The willingness to drag good men's name through the mud just for political gain. What ever one may feel about McCain's politics of today or his service in the senate has nothing to do with his military service. If this is what this thread is about, have at as I am through with it before even getting started. This type of politics makes me sick.
    I didn't call John McCain a traitor, but there were plenty who did. My point is that we don't know Bergdahl's side of the story, so how can we judge him when it appears to be one sided?


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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I don't know if it's true, but I am hearing the Taliban threatened to kill him.
    Changes nothing...terrorists threaten to kill their hostages all the time.

    Imo, don't negotiate with terrorists.

    Will that mean some hostages will die initially? Probably.

    But it also means that far less hostages will probably be kidnapped in the future. Why will terrorists bother if they know you will not negotiate with them?

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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    You don't have one, do you?
    I think he should be brought home, and I also think if the military wants to charge him with desertion they have the right to do so. He just needs to have his day in court if they are going to charge him, not a whole populace, and media lynch mob after the guy.


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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Are you kidding? John McCain was offered a chance to go home by the North Vietnamese for propaganda reasons. His father was CINCPAC. He told the North Vietnamese he would leave after all of those POW's who were caught before left, in other words when his turn came. James Stockdale who was our VP nominee spoke very highly of John McCain during their stints as POW's.

    This is what disgusts me about partisan politics. The willingness to drag good men's name through the mud just for political gain. What ever one may feel about McCain's politics of today or his service in the senate has nothing to do with his military service. If this is what this thread is about, have at as I am through with it before even getting started. This type of politics makes me sick.
    I respect McCain, but I also despise the man and what he has become. Respect and hate are not mutually exclusive. I will happily drag his name through the mud for what he is now, politics has always been and always will be a what have you done for me, or to me, now venture, and anyone who gets into it will get muddy. Its the nature of the beast. To be blunt politics these days are tame. It aint anywhere close to what it was. It doesn't lessen my respect for what McCain has done as a military man. I respect him as a military man. I doubt I have the intestinal fortitude to deal with what he did for as long. I don't know because I have never been there. But the man earned my respect as a man in that regard with his deeds then. When the **** hits the fan I would have no problem being in the same foxhole with him. I believe that he holds America in high esteem. That said you wouldn't catch me at a party with him though. As a politician, he hasn't earned anything but enmity from me. So it gives me great joy to kick the politician McCain around. In politics its no quarter asked and no quarter given. Its just business. Though everyone these days takes it personally it seems.
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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I think he should be brought home, and I also think if the military wants to charge him with desertion they have the right to do so. He just needs to have his day in court if they are going to charge him, not a whole populace, and media lynch mob after the guy.
    The more I hear about his case the more I think you would have to be a real dickhead to charge him.

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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    The more I hear about his case the more I think you would have to be a real dickhead to charge him.
    Indeed, but as much a dickhead to lionize him. And there's the problem, Obama has ensured the guy won't be left alone. Eventually he'll face charges because this admin is too stupid to be trusted with military or foreign policy.

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