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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I'm comfortable with the conclusion he walked away. The only question is whether he meant to stay away.
    You may be comfortable. But that us hardly enough to convict.

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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You may be comfortable. But that us hardly enough to convict.
    He'll be convicted of abandoning his post. Whether his offense rises to desertion will depend on the finding of his subsequent intent. Desertion requires that he intended never to return.
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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    He'll be convicted of abandoning his post. Whether his offense rises to desertion will depend on the finding of his subsequent intent. Desertion requires that he intended never to return.
    He may well. I only know I've seen these certainties before turn out to not go as expected.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    I would like to think that an American deserter, but otherwise good man, is worth more than a bunch of washed-up Taliban. All of whom would going back to Afghanistan anyway.

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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    yes this military man was a pow.... we are at war with the Taliban.....al queda are terrorist... two different people/groups .. this American soldier could have been killed at any time by them ......we were going to give the 5 Taliban back in 2 years anyway after we pulled out and war ended...I doubt they can be recycled back in to active duty that quick after being out 10 years and I also think they are being tracked(body implant?) the repubs do not have a good record of keeping their mouth shut on things if it can mess can mess Obama up hmmmmmmm... that is why he/the prez did not tell them/ repubs period.....sorry -obama-pic-jpg
    Last edited by plutonium; 06-11-14 at 07:22 PM.

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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, you have news reports (and maybe some gossip). You have little else.
    Boo we have every piece of evidence necessary to convict in a court of law. Not a military one, either. If the best defense you have of this guy deserting his post is to argue that the only evidence we have is the overwhelming evidence that we have, well, again, that says more about his guilt than his innocence.

    But I can't help but notice you continue to refuse to put forth any alternate explanation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Boo we have every piece of evidence necessary to convict in a court of law. Not a military one, either. If the best defense you have of this guy deserting his post is to argue that the only evidence we have is the overwhelming evidence that we have, well, again, that says more about his guilt than his innocence.

    But I can't help but notice you continue to refuse to put forth any alternate explanation.
    Only if everything you think you have is as reported. We all know reports have never, ever, ever been wrong. Right?

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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by plutonium View Post
    yes this military man was a pow.... we are at war with the Taliban.....al queda are terrorist... two different people/groups ..
    This guy was being held by the Haqqanni, who A) fall under the Taliban but B) are officially designated a terrorist organization.

    this American soldier could have been killed at any time by them ......we were going to give the 5 Taliban back in 2 years anyway after we pulled out and war ended...
    Why? They have plenty enough links to AQ.

    I doubt they can be recycled back in to active duty that quick after being out 10 years
    Then you aren't aware of who these guys are. They aren't tactical level leadership who will need to relearn how to build an IED. These are their strategic level thinkers and leaders. We just gave them back their Generals Matthis, Petraeus, McChrystal, Dunford, and Odierno. It doesn't matter if they don't know the differences between an M240G and an M240B. That's not their job.

    and I also think they are being tracked(body implant?)
    That's fascinating. Tell us more about that program. Is it the same tech they used in Operation Treadstone?

    And what are we going to do when they go back to Quetta, and then push north into Afghanistan, wreaking havoc? Bomb them for attacking Afghanistan?

    the repubs do not have a good record of keeping their mouth shut on things if it can mess can mess Obama up hmmmmmmm... that is why he/the prez did not tell them/ repubs period.....sorry -obama-pic-jpg
    Ah. So your theory on why the President chose to ignore the law is that it would have been inconvenient? Well, I agree.

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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Only if everything you think you have is as reported. We all know reports have never, ever, ever been wrong. Right?
    Again, if your only argument is that the evidence does not meet a standard that no evidence in the history of mankind has ever met, it says more about his guilt than his innocence.

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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Again, if your only argument is that the evidence does not meet a standard that no evidence in the history of mankind has ever met, it says more about his guilt than his innocence.
    Now, you know that's not my argument. Odd that you should pretend that it is. My argument is that you only have what you hear, and don't know if what you hear is accurate, or if there is information you don't have. Nothing has been confirmed, supported, or examined.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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