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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Who saw him walk? Who saw what happened? It's a conclusion. Not a fact. It may be likely, but 100% certain. Don't you know the difference?
    ...You realize that "not 100% certain" is also a description that applies to the claim that the Earth will continue rotating, causing the sun to appear in the sky tomorrow?


    If your best defense of this assclown is that his crimes fail to meet a standard of proof that are unmeetable by anything, well, that says more about his guilt than it does any supposed innocence.

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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    ...You realize that "not 100% certain" is also a description that applies to the claim that the Earth will continue rotating, causing the sun to appear in the sky tomorrow?
    And this isn't that certain by light years. You don't know what you don't know. None of us do.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Really? Is that what you're going with?
    I asked him what he could possible imagine the alternative was, and he couldn't come up with anything. Classic Boo.

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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    And this isn't that certain by light years. You don't know what you don't know. None of us do.
    Actually I know quite a lot of my known unknowns. For example, I don't know if "bergdahl" is still really "in there", or if his mind chose to check out years ago. My bet would be the latter, but we don't really have that much evidence for that yet.

    We do have a massive preponderance of evidence that he deserted his post.

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    Obviously war zones are a hard place to be in, some can handle it and some can't. Leaving an American behind to be tortured is just shameful. The military is full of dirtbags as well and we bring all of them home. Just because someone doesn't agree with what the military is doing or got scared or started second guessing themselves isn't cause to be called a traitor.

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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    And this isn't that certain by light years. You don't know what you don't know. None of us do.
    I'm comfortable with the conclusion he walked away. The only question is whether he meant to stay away.
    "It's always reassuring to find you've made the right enemies." -- William J. Donovan

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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by prime View Post
    Obviously war zones are a hard place to be in, some can handle it and some can't. Leaving an American behind to be tortured is just shameful. The military is full of dirtbags as well and we bring all of them home. Just because someone doesn't agree with what the military is doing or got scared or started second guessing themselves isn't cause to be called a traitor.
    No. If the reports that he actively aided the Taliban in targeting his fellow soldiers are true, that is cause to be called a traitor. As it is all the evidence really demonstrates is that he is a deserter.

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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I'm comfortable with the conclusion he walked away. The only question is whether he meant to stay away.
    My bet would be that after his first attempted escape when they beat the snot out of him, threw him in a cage, and then probably raped him mistreated him, that he was pretty clear he was no longer happy where he was. But by then, it was too late, buddy.

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    I agree, but since the reports are not conclusive I think the outrage by a lot of Americans is very shameful. If he in fact did aid terrorists then being a traitor would be correct, but if we find out that he helped in fear of his life I would not consider him to be a traitor.

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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Actually I know quite a lot of my known unknowns. For example, I don't know if "bergdahl" is still really "in there", or if his mind chose to check out years ago. My bet would be the latter, but we don't really have that much evidence for that yet.

    We do have a massive preponderance of evidence that he deserted his post.
    No, you have news reports (and maybe some gossip). You have little else.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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