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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Sure, but the ones who were there against their will, we just left them there, thus we do leave our men and women in uniform behind.
    No. We did not leave anyone who wanted to come home. Some stayed because they wanted to stay.
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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    No. We did not leave anyone who wanted to come home. Some stayed because they wanted to stay.
    So you're just redefining those people who were being held against their will as "people who wanted to stay". Gotcha.
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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    So you're just redefining those people who were being held against their will as "people who wanted to stay". Gotcha.
    No. They were offered departure. They declined the offer.
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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    No. They were offered departure. They declined the offer.
    So they chose to stay in cages at gunpoint. Suuuuuure they did.
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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    So they chose to stay in cages at gunpoint. Suuuuuure they did.
    No. They were no longer prisoners. They had integrated into the society of their former captors. Almost all had married. They preferred to stay, and preferred not to communicate with their US families and/or friends. Their reasons varied.
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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    It's far too early to render a verdict on Bergdahl. We need his side of the story and a military investigation. Then we can say something of meaning. Until then, we're connecting dots in a field of unclear, distorted, and incomplete evidence.

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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Maybe the enthusiasm he had when he volunteered disappearedwhen he faced the cruel reality of what was going on in Afghanistan.
    Yeah well, that is why one has to think very carefully before signing on the dotted line.
    But my big question is, how is it possible that his flaws weren't observed long prior to this incident?
    As far as military service is concerned he very clearly did HAVE character flaws, character flaws which, in my humble opinion, made him unfit to serve.

    He could have been very happy serving in a non military capacity in some NGO, for instance.

    But that doesn't change the fact that he deserves a lift home.
    If the military wishes to discipline him, that's fine.
    But it is good and proper that we brought him home.
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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    There are reports out there that he aided the Taliban, teaching them small unit tactics and how to use phones for IED's.
    They didn't need an American, Bergdahl or any other, to teach them how to use phones as IED's and they didn't need any foreigners to teach them small unit tactics either.
    Taliban, AQ, and the rest of the insurgent/terrorist groups have known how to use phones to trigger IED's since before the FIRST Gulf War and not only that, they're also skilled in lo-tech tactics like using washing machine timers as well.

    Stop trying to make it sound like Bergdahl was some magical operative trained in the dark arts.
    At the very worst, he was an ineffective soldier and little else who slipped through the cracks and lost his nerve in theater, and he had an incredibly stupid lapse of judgment which might have cost some lives.
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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Del Zeppnile View Post
    At some point every POW will eventually talk after being tortured, even the military understands this.
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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    What POW?
    Bergdahl certainly appears not to be a POW. Neither are the terrorists that killed hundreds of innocents and many American soldiers.

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