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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Except when Reagan did it.

    Since he is guilty until proven innocent.
    Even Krauthammer and General McChrystal don't believe this.
    The fissures are growing in your GOP formation.
    Referencing a 30 year old administration is ridiculous and childish.

    I don't care what Krauthammer or McChrystal believe, his squad mates
    say he was a deserter.

    Ill take their word over anyone else's.

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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    You also do not negotiate with terrorists and I think that is the greater danger...to the country and to our soldiers, current and future.
    Reagan is the one who coined that term and it became a conservative mantra. Other then that, the state department has never once stated that our official policy was to not negotiate with terrorists.. We won't make "concessions" to terrorists but we certainly will negotiate with them.
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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Obviously referring to Prisoners of war.


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    In a general sense I agree, but absolutes are stupid and needlessly tie your hands.

    We should always make effort to retrieve our men and women who are left behind. That doesn't mean if the cost to get them is the state of New Hampshire, for example, that we just have to give it to them because "Hey, we don't leave our men and women in uniform behind".

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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I assume you mean "we did not negotiate with terrorists" (I don't see how negotiating with hostages would do anything), and, unsurprisingly, you're wrong. By today's standards, the Viet Cong were a terrorist organization, and we negotiated numerous prisoner releases and exchanges with them. Just off the top of my head.
    And I suppose each time we sent them five generals for a gomer? Come on!
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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    This "deal" was made public in 2012, why was there no objection to those 5 then? Then there is the fact that if they do try and return to Afghanistan they will likely be killed by our drones anyway. I think this is a disgusting display of hatred towards our servicemen and women. We brought that man to Afghanistan and we owe it to him to do everything possible to bring him home.
    The rate of detainees being released from GETMO returning to the fight has been 1 in 4 or more.
    Considering these guys positions, I would say its almost certain that they will (even the president doesn't deny this.)

    If they return to the Taliban and rally them to increase attacks, then we have sacrificed many troops for one.

    As a soldier myself, if I am captured, obviously, I would want to be recovered but not at ANY cost.
    Some cost are too high. What if 10 or 20 (or more) die as a result of these guys returning to the battlefield? Is it worth it?
    No.

    Every soldier I know is willing to take a bullet for his battle buddies. Its part of the job.

    This seems like the exact opposite.

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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Other.

    In a general sense I agree, but absolutes are stupid and needlessly tie your hands.

    We should always make effort to retrieve our men and women who are left behind. That doesn't mean if the cost to get them is the state of New Hampshire, for example, that we just have to give it to them because "Hey, we don't leave our men and women in uniform behind".
    (5 Taliban who have never attacked us, btw) = the state of New Hampshire. Is that really what you're suggesting?
    They may very well be bad people, but we are winding our involvement in Afghanistan. So what are we supposed to do with them when we are completely out of the country, leave them in Guantanamo indefinitely? Is that even legal? And we should let Bergdahl die in Afghanistan because we believe some unsubstantiated reports about him?


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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Paratrooper View Post
    The rate of detainees being released from GETMO returning to the fight has been 1 in 4 or more.
    Considering these guys positions, I would say its almost certain that they will (even the president doesn't deny this.)

    If they return to the Taliban and rally them to increase attacks, then we have sacrificed many troops for one.

    As a soldier myself, if I am captured, obviously, I would want to be recovered but not at ANY cost.
    Some cost are too high. What if 10 or 20 (or more) die as a result of these guys returning to the battlefield? Is it worth it?
    No.

    Every soldier I know is willing to take a bullet for his battle buddies. Its part of the job.

    This seems like the exact opposite.
    What happened to "bring it on"? Bush felt we should get the terrorists over there and that is what will happen if they do go to Afghanistan. We are continuing our drone attacks even after most all of our troops leave.
    You also failed to address the fact that the pending release of the same 5 Taliban was announced in 2012 and yet now it seems like the Republicans are acting like they were blindsided and are busy changing all there facebook pages. McCain himself said in 2012 that he would "be inclined to support" the exact same prisoner exchange.

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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    What would John Wayne do?


    I think he'd go rescue Bergdahl....and then he'd have him stand trial and face his accusers....


    ...and then he'd charge $6 a ticket to see it on the silver screen. lol
    Speaking of cowards.

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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    But when someone lays down their gear and walks off, thereby putting other Americans at risk, why should we worry about them?

    Explain that to us, if you can.




    I believe that the best thing to do with someone like that is to tell them to scratch their ass.

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    Re: We Donít Leave Our Men or Women in Uniform Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    I am not asking you to try and judge him. I am asking for third party evidence of how a man can be decreed a deserter and decreed a traitor without a trial.
    Apparently his "sin" is that his release was organized by the Obama Administration otherwise there would be none of this behavior. It seems the cause of the opposing party trumps all our Constitutional rights and privileges.

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