View Poll Results: The Greatest Empire in History?

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  • Persian Empire

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  • Roman Empire

    30 51.72%
  • Han Empire

    4 6.90%
  • Mayan Empire

    0 0%
  • Mongol Empire

    3 5.17%
  • Portuguese Empire

    0 0%
  • Spanish Empire

    0 0%
  • Russian Empire

    1 1.72%
  • French Empire

    2 3.45%
  • British Empire

    27 46.55%
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    Re: The Greatest Empire in History

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    What?!

    Hawaii was taken over by force in 1893.

    Hawaii - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Puerto Rico was taken from Spain in the Spanish-American War.

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    So.. What on Earth are you talking about?!
    "The Hawaii electorate voted 94.3% "yes for statehood" to 5.7% "no".[75] The choices were to accept the Act or to remain a territory, without the option of independence"

    America did not take Puerto Rico from Spain, we liberated it from Spain.

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    Re: The Greatest Empire in History

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Your picture exemplifies precisely what I don't like about Americanization. The Walmart, microwave culture. I much prefer the cobblestone streets of Europe with its locally owned cafe's and charm.

    I think the legacy America will leave on the world, what it will be most remembered for, is it's enterprising nature. Americans are distinctively commercial-minded, enterprising, entrepreneurial, and innovative.

    Americans create, package, sell, and profit better than anyone in the history of the world; and that is both our biggest strength as well as our biggest weakness.
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    Re: The Greatest Empire in History

    The Bible says that the greatest empire in history will be the beast, so for that reason, I hope another nation beats America out for the title.
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    Re: The Greatest Empire in History

    Of the choices, I'm going to say the British Empire because it brought more civilization to more parts of the world than any other in the list. The "American" empire is not listed, and would be grouped by itself in my view because its real power (beyond the current borders) hasn't been used to conquer and hold land, but has transformed more of the world through its ideals. No doubt we could go on all month about the American empire, because I would expect a lot of disagreement. No empire has been built without significant change and some level of brutality for a period. There's always good and bad.
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    Re: The Greatest Empire in History

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    Well, Wikipedia seems to disagree with you.

    Wikipedia seems to think that, as Kahn and Cerf both directly say, they had a part in its creation, but it wasn't their invention -- in fact, it was many peoples', because it's not something that can actually BE invented.

    However, networked computers CAN be invented, and a Briton did it -- Donald Davies..

    The modern format of the Internet, the ubiquitous and universal World Wide Web was invented by Tim Berners-Lee, another Briton.
    Who happens to sit at MIT and not Oxford.
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    Re: The Greatest Empire in History

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    "The Hawaii electorate voted 94.3% "yes for statehood" to 5.7% "no".[75] The choices were to accept the Act or to remain a territory, without the option of independence"

    America did not take Puerto Rico from Spain, we liberated it from Spain.
    Mate, that was after you overthrew the king. And colonised it. AFTER all that, then they voted to become a state.

    That's still colonialism.

    And as for Puerto Rico -- I am shocked that you think switching one far-off capital for another is anything but colonisation. If the US had 'liberated' Puerto Rico, surely they would have given it back to the Puerto Ricans?

    Yet it's still a US territory. Very obviously an imperial holding. Not that that's a bad thing.

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    Re: The Greatest Empire in History

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Who happens to sit at MIT and not Oxford.
    Absolutely. And Bill Clinton went to Oxford, go figure.

    Doesn't change that Berners-Lee is British.

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    Re: The Greatest Empire in History

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    Absolutely. And Bill Clinton went to Oxford, go figure.

    Doesn't change that Berners-Lee is British.
    You know I emailed him once, told him I appreciated his work? He actually responded with a thank you.
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    Re: The Greatest Empire in History

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    I think it could be equally (and more convincingly) argued that America is 'British' fundamentally in its culture and institutional history. Obviously not what you're wanting to hear, but I have to admit I think that America's global power is A) Significantly less than Britain's at its height and B) Fundamentally not dissimilar to British ideas of how the world should be. America is a product of Britain, directly, and 'Americanization' appears to me to have all the hallmarks of Britain's 'civilising' quest.

    Plus, the British Empire was totally global, too.
    You posted exactly what I was going to say. The whole system of laws and of course the language make it even more obvious.
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    Re: The Greatest Empire in History

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You know I emailed him once, told him I appreciated his work? He actually responded with a thank you.
    Hah, what a story! I'm glad you did. I think more people should take the time to do things like that.

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