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    Re: Has the US seen its last white, male President?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Well, yes it does imply that minorities are incapable of voting outside their race because that's the only way that no white male will ever be President again.
    Couldn't they vote for a white woman?


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    Re: Has the US seen its last white, male President?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    You know Cruz was born and raised in Canada, right?
    To an American mother. His father was working for the oil industry there.

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    Re: Has the US seen its last white, male President?

    Quote Originally Posted by shavingcollywob View Post
    Couldn't they vote for a white woman?

    They could, but Geraldine Ferraro did a lot to set back women in the highest offices and Sarah Palin didn't improve the odds. You might say Hillary Clinton, but I won't believe it until I see it.
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    Re: Has the US seen its last white, male President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    I didint know this. Do you have a source?

    again just to be clear what we are talking about this is only based on PERCENTAGE which is pretty meanignless. Not saying TB suggested otherwise i just dont want people getting confused. In reality this is pretty meaningless and has no real impact.

    "Washington (CNN) – A new Census Bureau report shows a higher percentage of African-Americans than whites voted in a presidential election for the first time in history last year during the matchup between President Obama and GOP nominee Mitt Romney.

    The report, released Wednesday, found that more than 66% of eligible blacks voted in the presidential contest. Only 64.1% of whites turned out to vote."

    numbers wise and this is just an estimate it means:

    113 million whites voted
    20 million blacks voted

    so if votes were split based on race (they are not) blacks would have need to vote 6 times before they could sway the election even at 5 times they would lose by 13 MILLION votes

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    Re: Has the US seen its last white, male President?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    They could, but Geraldine Ferraro did a lot to set back women in the highest offices and Sarah Palin didn't improve the odds. You might say Hillary Clinton, but I won't believe it until I see it.
    So, George Bush set back white men. Barack Obama set back black men. Geraldine Ferraro and Sarah Palin set back all women.

    Aren't we back to a non-white male?

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    Re: Has the US seen its last white, male President?

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    why should we care?
    I agree with that in theory. From what I've seen of this one we have now, I pray we never have another one that brings his racism with him. Race relations are worse now than any time in recent history. But it didn't have to be that way, he chose to be that way. Obama isn't much different than Johnson in that respect, except that I think Johnson was more secretive about it.
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    Re: Has the US seen its last white, male President?

    Quote Originally Posted by shavingcollywob View Post
    So, George Bush set back white men. Barack Obama set back black men. Geraldine Ferraro and Sarah Palin set back all women.

    Aren't we back to a non-white male?
    Sorry, you fail to get the point. George Bush didn't set back white men, regardless of your view of his Presidency, because there have been 40 some odd other white men who've been President, many of them very good. The comparator set for black men in the office is limited to one, in my view a complete failure, and the only women who got near the Presidency have been considered very poor choices. Therefore, I'd say you're back to a pretty strong probability that white men will be President many more times to come.
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    Re: Has the US seen its last white, male President?

    How on earth did Geraldine Ferraro set women back other than running with Mondale of all people?
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    Re: Has the US seen its last white, male President?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Sorry, you fail to get the point. George Bush didn't set back white men, regardless of your view of his Presidency, because there have been 40 some odd other white men who've been President, many of them very good. The comparator set for black men in the office is limited to one, in my view a complete failure, and the only women who got near the Presidency have been considered very poor choices. Therefore, I'd say you're back to a pretty strong probability that white men will be President many more times to come.
    In all seriousness, is this something you even believe or are you just arguing for the sake of arguing now?

    The idea that a black person or a woman set back all black people and all women just seems incredibly ignorant.

    I don't think I'll ever cease being shocked at how obsessed this forum is with race. Your silly "so a black man can only vote for a black man!" point wasn't even a consideration when I started this topic and I've blown away that 11 pages into it no one has even bothered to look at how the 2016 election is shaping up. I mean right now the front runners for the Democrat nomination are Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren. You also have to assume there's a very high likelihood the Republicans run a non-white candidate as they try and shake the "rich, old, white man" image to court minority votes that are starting to hurt them in national elections. I would genuinely be shocked if either Democrats or Republicans run a white man for POTUS in 2016.

    I'm also surprised with all this "so you think Hispanics will only vote for Hispanics" no one has even bothered to look at how rarely a country elects someone outside the majority to lead them. Heck, right here in U.S. history it's happened exactly once. Of course a person can vote outside their race but when you take a look at world leaders it's extremely rare and I stress vote. There have undoubtedly been countries run by minorities but almost all of them have been repressive regimes that held leadership by force. I think it's safe to say as more and more Hispanics come to this country that the likelihood of us electing Hispanics increases.

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    Re: Has the US seen its last white, male President?

    Quote Originally Posted by shavingcollywob View Post
    In all seriousness, is this something you even believe or are you just arguing for the sake of arguing now?

    The idea that a black person or a woman set back all black people and all women just seems incredibly ignorant.

    I don't think I'll ever cease being shocked at how obsessed this forum is with race. Your silly "so a black man can only vote for a black man!" point wasn't even a consideration when I started this topic and I've blown away that 11 pages into it no one has even bothered to look at how the 2016 election is shaping up. I mean right now the front runners for the Democrat nomination are Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren. You also have to assume there's a very high likelihood the Republicans run a non-white candidate as they try and shake the "rich, old, white man" image to court minority votes that are starting to hurt them in national elections. I would genuinely be shocked if either Democrats or Republicans run a white man for POTUS in 2016.

    I'm also surprised with all this "so you think Hispanics will only vote for Hispanics" no one has even bothered to look at how rarely a country elects someone outside the majority to lead them. Heck, right here in U.S. history it's happened exactly once. Of course a person can vote outside their race but when you take a look at world leaders it's extremely rare and I stress vote. There have undoubtedly been countries run by minorities but almost all of them have been repressive regimes that held leadership by force. I think it's safe to say as more and more Hispanics come to this country that the likelihood of us electing Hispanics increases.
    You're calling me obsessed with race when you post up an idiotic thread about no white male will ever be elected President again and I counter your idiotic argument??

    That's pretty rich.
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