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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    No, I don't think so. What has a slave built 150 - 160 years or so ago that benefited me? I would say that you have benefited from my labor, though.
    You have benefited from the work of people like Madison and Washington. Those people used slaves to assist them in building the infrastructure that started this country.

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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    I would say that you have benefited from the slave labor that built this country.
    Oh hell - why stop there? Even black people benefit from it.

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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Oh hell - why stop there? Even black people benefit from it.

    Can't change it.
    But the blacks were the slaves.

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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    You have benefited from the work of people like Madison and Washington. Those people used slaves to assist them in building the infrastructure that started this country.
    And non slaves also worked to build infrastructure that started this country, and many died without pay fighting to start this country. The Native Americans before us made improvements to the land without pay, and many died without pay to free slaves, and many risked life and imprisonment to help slaves escape without pay... so what. That has zero to do with anyone today. We all work and pay taxes for the benefit of all, including the descendants of slaves. The blood of Americans spread throughout the land, the upheaval and protests, the court rulings, the integration and social programs, in an effort to beat back the injustice of slavery isn't worth anything? It's never enough is it?
    Do my fore bearers deserve anything? What were conditions like for the Irish in NYC? How about the Italians? What do I get from you? silly huh?
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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Ten Reasons Why Reparations For Slavery is a Bad Idea and why its' Racist too!

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    There Is No Single Group Clearly Responsible For The Crime Of Slavery

    Black Africans and Arabs were responsible for enslaving the ancestors of African-Americans. There were 3,000 black slave-owners in the ante-bellum United States. Are reparations to be paid by their descendants too?

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    What About The Debt Blacks Owe To America?

    Slavery existed for thousands of years before the Atlantic slave trade was born, and in all societies. But in the thousand years of its existence, there never was an anti-slavery movement until white Christians - Englishmen and Americans -- created one. If not for the anti-slavery attitudes and military power of white Englishmen and Americans, the slave trade would not have been brought to an end. If not for the sacrifices of white soldiers and a white American president who gave his life to sign the Emancipation Proclamation, blacks in America would still be slaves. If not for the dedication of Americans of all ethnicities and colors to a society based on the principle that all men are created equal, blacks in America would not enjoy the highest standard of living of blacks anywhere in the world, and indeed one of the highest standards of living of any people in the world. They would not enjoy the greatest freedoms and the most thoroughly protected individual rights anywhere. Where is the gratitude of black America and its leaders for those gifts?


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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I didn't do anyone wrong- so I don't owe anyone an apology.

    If you feel guilty for something which you did not do, then by all means, pay up, but don't expect everyone else to do the same.
    Let me first say that I'm actually against paying reparations on a theoretical level, but I'll get to that in a bit.

    As for your statement, I think there's an inherent institutional continuity in a nation -- it is, in fact, what makes up a nation. So, I do think you essentially have some 'responsibility' (though not guilt necessarily) for your ancestors, as well as your descendants.

    That said, I think that reparations would probably have the reverse effect of causing more racism by preying on the 'lazy' stereotype of black people, while simultaneously forcing white people to 'pay them.'

    Put simply, it wouldn't go down well.

    However, I think the government should issue, in writing and on a gigantic memorial somewhere, an apology for slavery. That would be good.

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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    And non slaves also worked to build infrastructure that started this country, and many died without pay fighting to start this country. The Native Americans before us made improvements to the land without pay, and many died without pay to free slaves, and many risked life and imprisonment to help slaves escape without pay... so what. That has zero to do with anyone today. We all work and pay taxes for the benefit of all, including the descendants of slaves. The blood of Americans spread throughout the land, the upheaval and protests, the court rulings, the integration and social programs, in an effort to beat back the injustice of slavery isn't worth anything? It's never enough is it?
    Do my fore bearers deserve anything? What were conditions like for the Irish in NYC? How about the Italians? What do I get from you? silly huh?
    There is no group in the United States that was enslaved on a scale anywhere near Africans. Not only that, but after slavery right up to very recent US history, blacks suffered from institutionalized, structural, systemic, government racism that was designed to "keep n*gg*rs" in their place, to make them feel inferior, to psychologically cripple them so that they would not be a threat. That is the difference.

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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    There is no group in the United States that was enslaved on a scale anywhere near Africans. Not only that, but after slavery right up to very recent US history, blacks suffered from institutionalized, structural, systemic, government racism that was designed to "keep n*gg*rs" in their place, to make them feel inferior, to psychologically cripple them so that they would not be a threat. That is the difference.
    No doubt that some blacks suffered under racist attitudes. If someone has treated you in a racist manner, I will be happy to stand with you in persecuting that racist. Who shall I stand against and why? Is it any random white guy? Because that's kinda what you are saying here and that will not do.
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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    But the blacks were the slaves.
    and here we are, 150 years later . . . and?

    If whites and everyone else benefited then that means so have blacks - whether they descended from slaves or not doesn't even matter (because a lot have not - slavery is not the only means by which blacks have come to America).

    You want to go further out into the ozone you can says things like 'the entire world benefited from slavery' because it was a worldwide economic concept.
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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    No doubt that some blacks suffered under racist attitudes. If someone has treated you in a racist manner, I will be happy to stand with you in persecuting that racist. Who shall I stand against and why? Is it any random white guy? Because that's kinda what you are saying here and that will not do.
    It's not a matter against standing against some random person. It's just that the government itself sponsored the racism. It was very cruel. I could tell you some far out stories that my grandfather told me. I'm from an area where the KKK is still big to this very day.

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