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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Te-Nehisi Coates' recent article in The Atlantic has raised a few eyebrows, and showed me just how much I did not know concerning how America and America's government has oppressed the African American community in the past...and even to the modern day.

    Coates points out that reparations isn't a matter of "we can't afford it" or "how do we determine who gets paid how much", but a matter of right and wrong. America - and America's government - committed great wrongs against the African American community over many generations, including within my own lifetime.

    I was raised to believe that if I did somebody wrong, I should apologize sincerely...and I should do my level best to make it up to those I wronged. I was taught that a refusal to make up for what I have done to others is not just wrong, but dishonorable.

    It is for this reason that I agree that we as a nation should pay reparations to the African American community - because it is a matter of right and wrong, a matter of our national honor.
    Paying reparations to the African American community would be an excellent way to set race relations back 100 years in my opinion.


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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Problem is - as the article points out - the wrong continues to this day, and to a greater extent than most of us know.
    I agree that most folks who oppose reparations don't consider the many ways other than chattel slavery that African Americans have been "wronged".

    By the same token, most folks who advocate for reparations don't consider the many ways that African Americans have been "compensated" by the American taxpayer for their living situation.

    At the end of the day I think it's probably a wash in the general sense.

    This country has really bent over backward over the course of the last few decades to give African Americans a fair shake and to provide food, homes, spending money, education, and job opportunities to those most in need.

    If any particular African American can make an evidentiary claim that s/he suffered some kind of direct and quantifiable loss as a result of institutional racism then I think we should weight that evidence with a bias toward the claimant and make that person whole.

    But i think it's outrageous to expect that we go through another, more contemporary, round of "40 acres and a mule" (maybe something like "Condo and a Kia") for every American whose skin is darker than some arbitrarily chosen shade of tan.
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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    I didn't read the article yet, but yes, I believe the gov. should provide reparations, but in the form of quality education and other EFFECTIVE social programs rather than in the form of land or money. It should also do so for Native Americans.

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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Africa should pay the repatriation if anyone after all they are the ones who enslaved their brethren first.
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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    If I'm white and my great great great great great grandfather, who I never met and know nothing about was a slave, do I get free money too?

    If you weren't a slave yourself, you don't deserve free money. If we're going to start paying people for what happened to their ancestors, I think the Jews are first in line.
    what about all the blacks who came to the u.s. after slavery..are they entitled also?

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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    only if they're descended from American slaves

    No one should get money just because of the color of their skin.
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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyhunter View Post
    Africa should pay the repatriation if anyone after all they are the ones who enslaved their brethren first.
    Yes, or let's bill the Portuguese, the British, the French, the Spanish, and the Dutch Empire, who provided most of the ships to haul them over here and sell them at auction. Many more were sold to help with the colonization of South and Central America, as well as Canada and Mexico, than were sold here in the U.S. colonies.

    And as one by one other North and South American countries and their island possession abolished slavery, some of their descendants wound up here in the USA. So who owes them reparations? The African slave traders who captured their ancesters and brought them to the slave ships? The countries of origin of the ships owners/captains themselves? Or all those other countries who received the black people as slaves? International slave trade to the USA was abolished in I think 1808--working from memory here--as it was in most place during those early 19th century decades. Denmark/Norway for instance ended their slave trade about the same time we did and abolished slavery in that area just a few years before we did. If any descendants of their slaves immigrated here, are we still liable for reparations to them? Or can they bill Denmark?

    I think it would be a noble thing for all who feel guilty about black people to set up a fund and start raising money for reparations to them. Just bear in mind that when you do that, you see the beneficiaries of your benevolence as something less than your equals.

    But for the rest of us, many of us who were active and instrumental in ending institutional prejudices against black people, think we have paid our dues and prefer to just see our black friends and neighbors as people and equals. Thank you very much.
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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    I didn't read the article yet, but yes, I believe the gov. should provide reparations, but in the form of quality education and other EFFECTIVE social programs rather than in the form of land or money. It should also do so for Native Americans.
    We should do this anyway, regardless of any supposed 'racial guilt' and it should do so for the disadvantaged of ALL races. I am completely against any guilt based reparations whatsoever. I personally am guilty of nothing.

    Justice as a collective thing this far after the fact is itself an injustice. Justice should be an individual thing, except in extreme cases, and be recent in history.
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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Go ahead and get your checkbook out if it makes you feel better, Glen. The rest of us don't owe anyone anything.

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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Anyone who was ever a slave in America is welcome to come forward for reparations. Anyone who has never been officially enslaved, you've done nothing to earn it.
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