View Poll Results: Should we pay reparations to the African American community?

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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    The fact that the Union lost around 360,000 men to the cause of ending slavery is payment enough.

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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    If you feel so strongly by all means open your checkbook up and start writing. I however feel no such obligation, and my honor is intact.
    So is mine...and also my great-great-great grandparents'.

    I don't feel any guilt and owe nobody an apology. None of us was born, most of us by more than a century, when slavery existed in this country.

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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Funny thing actually the Jews did get their compensation for the Holocaust. Germany payed reparations to Israel when it was just created.
    They gave the money out because they had wronged the survivors. There isn't anyone alive today who was a US slave (legally anyway), so nobody deserves reparations for slavery.

    If I have a black person somewhere in my family tree do I get free money too?
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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    They gave the money out because they had wronged the survivors. There isn't anyone alive today who was a US slave (legally anyway), so nobody deserves reparations for slavery.

    If I have a black person somewhere in my family tree do I get free money too?
    Good point, RA! According to recent DNA studies in which samples were acquired throughout all of the states. Actually about 4% (an average statistic) of "whites" have black ancestors. The highest percentage is 13% of whites in South Caroline have black ancestors. Texas has about 3% of whites having black ancestors. And so on.

    So I guess it's time everybody get DNA tested and if they are the lucky winners of genetic heritage...go line up at the the nearest government "Get Your Reparation Award Department".

    It's a good thing that ignorant people aren't asking for reparation. The dumbing down of America has been going on for quite a while. The U.S. would be bankrupt minutes after the announcement.

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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    They gave the money out because they had wronged the survivors. There isn't anyone alive today who was a US slave (legally anyway), so nobody deserves reparations for slavery.

    If I have a black person somewhere in my family tree do I get free money too?
    Nah, I hear ya there.
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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    I believe that we HAVE PAID reparations to African Americans for a long time.

    1. We gave racial preferences in college admissions for decades.
    2. EEOC affirmative action required employers to not discriminate based on race in the hiring process. There were EEO Audits of companies to see if they complied. Annually you had to show how many people you had hired by race. Companies had to hire is rough proportion to the demographics of the community in which you did business. By the 70's, EEOC also wanted to see non-whites and women moving into management, not just hired at the lowest level.

    This eventually led to LBJ’s Civil Rights Act, which came shortly after President Kennedy’s assassination. This document was more holistic than any President Kennedy had offered, and therefore more controversial. It aimed not only to integrate public facilities, but also private businesses that sold to the public, such as motels, restaurants, theaters, and gas stations. Public schools, hospitals, libraries, parks, among other things, were included in the bill as well. It also worked with JFK’s executive order 11114 by prohibiting discrimination in the awarding of federal contracts and holding the authority of the government to deny contracts to businesses who discriminate. Maybe most significant of all, Title VII of the Civil Rights Act aimed to end discrimination in all firms with 25 or more employees. Another provision established the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission as the agency charged with ending discrimination in the nation’s workplace.[28]

    Title VII was perhaps the most controversial of the entire bill. Many conservatives accused it of advocating of a quota system, and claimed unconstitutionality as it attempts to regulate the workplace. Minnesota Senator Hubert H. Humphrey corrected this notion: “there is nothing in [Title VII] that will give power to the Commission to require hiring, firing, and promotion to meet a racial ‘quota.’ [. . .] Title VII is designed to encourage the hiring on basis of ability and qualifications, not race or religion.” Title VII prohibits discrimination. Humphrey was the silent hero of the bill’s passing through Congress. He pledged that the bill required no quotas, just nondiscrimination. Doing so, he convinced many pro-business Republicans, including Senate Minority Leader Everett Dirksen (IL) to support Title VII.[29]

    On July 2, 1964, the Act was signed into law by President Johnson. A Harris poll that spring showed 70% citizen approval of the Act.
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    I lived through all that implementation in New Orleans and if you were an all white company, you had to get busy hiring some black employees, or EEOC could easily prove that you had discriminated. We did pass on better qualified white candidates to hire black candidates so EEOC could not prove we were discriminatory. The same was true for women by the 70's and 80's. Many men felt discriminated against when they were passed over to hire or promote a minority candidate. I was passed over by a woman in the late 80's; she had an MBA that I did not, but I had 15 years of hardcore datacenter management experience and she had none. I was angry and quit 6 weeks later to go to the company that I retired from 23 years later. I worked happily for several women who had demonstrated their competence in our field. The first company was trying to hit a quota, the second was not.

    At any rate, I think the US went out of its way to alter the hiring and promotion systems in the nation for decades, to the advantage of blacks and women, to the detriment of white males. I don't think that is arguable. I think it was probably the right thing to do, even though I personally paid a price for it in the late 80's.

    I think our reparations have been paid through affirmative action for decades, and we no longer owe any reparations.

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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    In Russia, the serfs and Jews who were in many ways like serfs were the majority of population, while the nobles were a small minority. Serfdom was abolished in 1861. In 1917, former serfs overthrew the monarchy. Almost all of the nobles' property was confiscated and redistributed to the descendants of serfs and former serfs. That helped most of the population greatly.

    In 1968, my family got an apartment in a new house built long after 1917. I was born in 1970.

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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    No this is not going to solve the problem of race relations. If anything it's going to make it more hostile.

    I do support providing everyone with a basic minimum income regardless of their background as a basic right, not sure if that counts as it would include African Americans.
    Social democrat is no longer an accurate description of my views.

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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    If the nation as a whole did something wrong, is it not our duty as a nation to right that wrong?
    I think 300,000 Yankee corpses rotting in southern soil might be payment enough.

    It is sad that after getting their freedom, 30 acres and a mule, they are now back asking "progressives" for yet more handouts.

    BUT WAIT !!! I am 100% WRONG.

    It is very few blacks asking for the handout. MOSTLY it is Liberal Progressive whites that are talking about doing it......not so much the blacks.

    I offer this thread as an example.

    Ben Carson said it so truly...Quit patting us on the head and saying, "poor, poor baby" You are somehow not able to do anything on your own and NEED the help of white progressives to even start to be successful.

    That is complete crap.

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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Just the mention of this topic absurd on it's face....and pretty racist against blacks, even though it was written by a black man.

    I say this because it is saying in the United States, in the year 2015 with a black president, and an almost complete black faced government....black people STILL cannot make a go of it and need yet another handout. That is exactly what this subject is saying.

    Note in history....The IRISH were the first slaves brought to the US. They were even forcibly mated with blacks to make a better field hand.

    That aside. If a people...AS A GROUP...say they cannot make it in a world with one of their own as President, and the complete government filled with their own people, then that is not saying much about that people is it.

    BUT>>>> it is NOT the blacks... as a group... that are saying it. It is the white guilt Progressives.

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