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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    And were they sold into slavery with the understanding that they and their children and all their descendants until the end of time would also be slaves? And did they face a century of Jim Crow afterwards?

    One of the least wise things a white man can do is suggest that his ancestors had it as bad...because they didn't. Period.
    White people's/groups haven't been enslaved, raped, murdered or had their land and property stolen... or been slaves? Really?

    Up to one-half of all the arrivals in the American colonies were Whites slaves and they were America's first slaves. These Whites were slaves for life, long before Blacks ever were. This slavery was even hereditary. White children born to White slaves were enslaved too.

    Whites were auctioned on the block with children sold and separated from their parents and wives sold and separated from their husbands. Free Black property owners strutted the streets of northern and southern American cities while White slaves were worked to death in the sugar mills of Barbados and Jamaica and the plantations of Virginia.


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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    And were they sold into slavery with the understanding that they and their children and all their descendants until the end of time would also be slaves? And did they face a century of Jim Crow afterwards?

    One of the least wise things a white man can do is suggest that his ancestors had it as bad...because they didn't. Period.
    Everyone was enslaved and abused at one point in history or another. The reparations game is a fools' one.

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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Perhaps an argument could be made Mississippi or some Southern States owe reparations or that country club owe them but why in the hell should my tax dollars go to anything like that? The idea is ridiculous. My family had nothing to do with slavery or gaining anything from black labor.
    And your family likely had nothing to do with the Japanese internment...but IIRC we paid reparations to them. Your family also likely had nothing to do with the decision to illegally invade Iraq on false pretenses...but that's what we as a nation did.

    You see, while we may not personally be responsible, we Americans as a whole ARE in a very real way responsible for what our nation does.
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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    White people's/groups haven't been enslaved, raped, murdered or had their land and property stolen... or been slaves? Really?
    I would like to say that I am embarrassed to be a homo sapiens. I feel personally guilty for the fact that we wiped out the Neanderthals, your people. And I cannot begin to imagine how many microaggressions you must suffer every day in our Sapiens-Normative culture.

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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    White people's/groups haven't been enslaved, raped, murdered or had their land and property stolen... or been slaves? Really?
    Were white people as a whole group enslaved by America? "You're white, therefore you're a slave"?

    No. While some whites may have been enslaved/raped/murdered/had land stolen, these were very much the EXCEPTIONS to the rule...whereas for blacks it WAS the rule.

    We had it nowhere near as bad...and anyone who thinks otherwise is simply speaking out of ignorance.
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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    And your family likely had nothing to do with the Japanese internment...but IIRC we paid reparations to them. Your family also likely had nothing to do with the decision to illegally invade Iraq on false pretenses...but that's what we as a nation did.

    You see, while we may not personally be responsible, we Americans as a whole ARE in a very real way responsible for what our nation does.
    Sure. And if any who were enslaved are still around, I'm fine with them receiving some form of benefit.

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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    And your family likely had nothing to do with the Japanese internment...but IIRC we paid reparations to them. Your family also likely had nothing to do with the decision to illegally invade Iraq on false pretenses...but that's what we as a nation did.

    You see, while we may not personally be responsible, we Americans as a whole ARE in a very real way responsible for what our nation does.
    No "we" are not. The American government is the one that is responsible. If the US government wants to pay reparations then they need to get some high interest long term bonds, invest and then pay it themselves. The family descendants of the politicians of that time and slave owners are the ones responsible... take the money from some rich little snot's trust fund living on land stolen from blacks or used as a plantation and leave my money alone.
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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I would like to say that I am embarrassed to be a homo sapiens. I feel personally guilty for the fact that we wiped out the Neanderthals, your people. And I cannot begin to imagine how many microaggressions you must suffer every day in our Sapiens-Normative culture.
    My under-developed frontal lobe prohibits my understanding of your point. But we are sad and I am tired of manual labour.
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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    And were they sold into slavery with the understanding that they and their children and all their descendants until the end of time would also be slaves? And did they face a century of Jim Crow afterwards?

    One of the least wise things a white man can do is suggest that his ancestors had it as bad...because they didn't. Period.
    You are aware that prior to black slaves in this country...there were white slaves and our historians can't seem to call it for what it was, but instead used the term "Indentured Servants". These folks were treated just as black slaves were. Many died during the course of their servitude.

    In fact, today slavery is at an all time high around the world. And yes, even in America slavery still exists.

    The U.S. ranks 134th out of 162 countries for slavery prevalence.

    21-30 MILLION PEOPLE ARE TRAPPED IN SLAVERY AROUND THE WORLD TODAY.

    55% of slavery victims today are women and girls.

    Slavery generates $150 billion for traffickers each year.

    26% of slaves today are children under age 18.

    45% of slavery victims today are men and boys.

    SLAVERY is not legal anywhere but happens EVERYWHERE. 22% of slavery victims today are in sex slavery.

    78% of slavery victims today are in labor slavery.

    https://www.freetheslaves.net/document.doc?id=34

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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Everyone was enslaved and abused at one point in history or another. The reparations game is a fools' one.
    You mean America enslaved and abused everyone at one point in history or another?

    Oh, wait, you mean ALL THE WORLD, and not America...by which you mean that we shouldn't be responsible for anything America has ever done since other people did it too....
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