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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    If the nation as a whole did something wrong, is it not our duty as a nation to right that wrong?
    No. If someone feels victimized or was enslaved they can sue the government, that's what courts are for. The "victims" can go get an ambulance chasing lawyer to get them justice for a 30% fee, like everyone else.
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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Te-Nehisi Coates' recent article in The Atlantic has raised a few eyebrows, and showed me just how much I did not know concerning how America and America's government has oppressed the African American community in the past...and even to the modern day.

    Coates points out that reparations isn't a matter of "we can't afford it" or "how do we determine who gets paid how much", but a matter of right and wrong. America - and America's government - committed great wrongs against the African American community over many generations, including within my own lifetime.

    I was raised to believe that if I did somebody wrong, I should apologize sincerely...and I should do my level best to make it up to those I wronged. I was taught that a refusal to make up for what I have done to others is not just wrong, but dishonorable.

    It is for this reason that I agree that we as a nation should pay reparations to the African American community - because it is a matter of right and wrong, a matter of our national honor.
    What this reparations argument shows is this: People think that you can address a social and cultural wrong by giving someone money.

    We've made a lot of efforts to improve the state of African Americans in our society - we even have someone who identifies as Black as president. So I'm not sure at which point people consider things to be progressing forward and away from the negative issues - and if any amount of money is going to fix things to where these people are okay.

    Money is used to buy stuff - hence why countries who caused war pay reparations so the countries they've destroyed can actually repair their selves.

    Right now the biggest issues that many African American decedents in the US face are not fixable with some money. Beyond that - they would be paying their own reparations via taxes seeing as how THEY ARE AMERICANS.

    And it won't change anything, it won't make anyone feel better about the past. The concept only divides people.
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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Te-Nehisi Coates' recent article in The Atlantic has raised a few eyebrows, and showed me just how much I did not know concerning how America and America's government has oppressed the African American community in the past...and even to the modern day.

    Coates points out that reparations isn't a matter of "we can't afford it" or "how do we determine who gets paid how much", but a matter of right and wrong. America - and America's government - committed great wrongs against the African American community over many generations, including within my own lifetime.

    I was raised to believe that if I did somebody wrong, I should apologize sincerely...and I should do my level best to make it up to those I wronged. I was taught that a refusal to make up for what I have done to others is not just wrong, but dishonorable.

    It is for this reason that I agree that we as a nation should pay reparations to the African American community - because it is a matter of right and wrong, a matter of our national honor.
    Only you, ecofarm, and other White Race Apologists.

    While you're at it, shell out to other origins who were "mistreated" too.

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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Problem is - as the article points out - the wrong continues to this day, and to a greater extent than most of us know.
    And that's just nonsense. Btw, want to guess where slavery does actually still exist, and not the PC visualization of slavery, but the real thing? Look to Africa for the answer.

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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    No. If someone feels victimized or was enslaved they can sue the government, that's what courts are for. The "victims" can go get an ambulance chasing lawyer to get them justice for a 30% fee, like everyone else.
    Ah. So all we need to do is have 12 million more lawsuits in our courts? Gee, what could possibly go wrong with that?
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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Ah. So all we need to do is have 12 million more lawsuits in our courts? Gee, what could possibly go wrong with that?
    If they have a case and its similar to the others, they can do like everyone else and certify for a class action suit. But to be honest if there 12 million lawsuits, I wish them luck they are gona need it. I encourage anybody who feel so strongly they were wronged, to sue the perpetrators.
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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    We have been paying reparations for the last fifty years

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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Oh HELL NO!

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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Te-Nehisi Coates' recent article in The Atlantic has raised a few eyebrows, and showed me just how much I did not know concerning how America and America's government has oppressed the African American community in the past...and even to the modern day.

    Coates points out that reparations isn't a matter of "we can't afford it" or "how do we determine who gets paid how much", but a matter of right and wrong. America - and America's government - committed great wrongs against the African American community over many generations, including within my own lifetime.

    I was raised to believe that if I did somebody wrong, I should apologize sincerely...and I should do my level best to make it up to those I wronged. I was taught that a refusal to make up for what I have done to others is not just wrong, but dishonorable.

    It is for this reason that I agree that we as a nation should pay reparations to the African American community - because it is a matter of right and wrong, a matter of our national honor.
    My grandparents emigrated (legally) to the US from Germany in the late 1800's. They didn't keep slaves. Nobody in my family has ever kept slaves. In fact, nobody in my family has ever so much as discriminated against blacks of any kind. And, I'm sure there are a whole lot of other Americans who can say the same.

    Why should we be a part of any reparations to someone who isn't even alive anymore? The most any blacks alive at this time deserve is an apology...which they've gotten multiple times.

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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    If the nation as a whole did something wrong, is it not our duty as a nation to right that wrong?
    If those who did wrong could right that wrong by paying reparations to those who were wronged, I would agree. But those had no part in it don't owe anybody anything nor are those who have not had to go through the abomination of slavery due anything. If anybody owes the Black Americans anything now, it would be reparations for 'feel good' social policies that have served more to keep people poor and needy and infused with an entitlement mentality than any good those policies have done.

    Nobody I know or have ever known commends slavery. There is absolutely no justification of any kind for it. But we ended it just under 150 years ago. Seven or eight generations is a pretty good distance to have something behind us. Segregation ended well over a half century ago. Numerous black people, many who grew up under segregation, have been elected mayor of major cities, elected to state legislatures, elected to Congress, appointed or elected judges in the courts including the Supreme Court, and we currently have a black American as POTUS. Millions of others are or have been CEOs of major corporations, sports leaders/coaches, beloved figures in the entertainment industries, university professors, doctors, lawyers, scientists, and hold other positions of prestige and influence. Should all the black Americans who have so significantly benefitted because somebody way back then dragged their ancestors over here pay extra for the opportunities they have received because of that?


    It is time for all African Americans to follow those role models and it is time that we all allow a society to become color blind so that skin color is of no more importance than hair color or eye color.
    Last edited by AlbqOwl; 06-02-14 at 03:37 PM.
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