View Poll Results: Should we pay reparations to the African American community?

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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    I used to. I don't any longer.

    I still am waiting for my check for having to endure being a WASP male.

    I mean, what a huge hardship I have had to endure being the most powerful group with the most rights.

    The pressure to succeed is huge and I should be financially compensated for having to deal with this on a daily basis.



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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    I am not a fan of diversity stats. I won't disagree with your statements.

    Yet, lets look at diversity (blacks) on how they are represented in players in sports (NFL, NBA) for starters? Then if you look at the management staff, yep. Not so much.

    Reminds me of when I was working and the admin head said that we did not have enough minorities and females in the fire program. I then asked was there enough white males in the admin assistant postitions or in public affairs (all female staff at the time). The admin head had no real answer to that. I basically told her that we should hire the best qualified we can get. No matter who they are.

    Back to the OP. imo, we do not owe todays African Americans any reparations.
    All you done is show effects of discrimination.

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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    All you done is show effects of discrimination.
    yep. discrimination for all.

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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    There is no group in the United States that was enslaved on a scale anywhere near Africans. Not only that, but after slavery right up to very recent US history, blacks suffered from institutionalized, structural, systemic, government racism that was designed to "keep n*gg*rs" in their place, to make them feel inferior, to psychologically cripple them so that they would not be a threat. That is the difference.
    Did you know in Missouri that blacks were the majority of slave owners at the time of the Civil War? Did you know that since the beginning of the country that there have been free black men and women. Did you know a black man was the architect of Washington D.C..

    Now my ancestors have been here in this country quite awhile, and they are responsible for a great many reprehensible things, and many great things, and we as a large and prosperous family have ****ed everything that has walked or crawled or just was there, in every way imaginable literally and figuratively. I am sure some of the sorrier members of my family, way back when, owned slaves. Probably ****ed em and had children with them too, I imagine, after all there are more than a few black men and women in my family tree along with every other humanoid and not so humanoid critter too. Now that I said all that, I will get to my point. My family and the rest of America does NOT owe any former slave family one damned penny or anything else including an apology. Their family is free and have been so since at least since 1864. If the former slave family hasn't figured out how to succeed in America like every other that came before or since, it is not mine or Americas problem, its all on them and theirs, EVERY bit. Its not our problem them or theirs don't have the intestinal fortitude to earn their place at the table. I have no sympathy for them or theirs. Them and theirs have had plenty of time to learn how to make it in this country as countless others have done and countless numbers black men and women with balls(or tits as the case may be) and guts and the will to succeed have done since this country was founded. There are plenty of pathetic losers with no intestinal fortitude in this country of every race and creed. I have no pity for them. Very few of them have legitimate excuses. So as far I am concerned, **** em. My family may be a family of bastards, theirs is a family of fools. If there one thing every man ought to know, its that life is cast iron bitch and she will **** you every chance she gets. The movie Rocky Balboa has one of the best speeches ever about life, I will leave you with it.

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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    yep. discrimination for all.
    And we SHOULD discriminate. We should ALL strive to be as bright, competent, capable, skilled, able, and qualified to achieve our goals as we can. And the brightest, most competent, most capable, most skilled, most able, and most qualified should be moved to the head of the line in all things--otherwise we diminish us all.

    As I previously posted, I believe it was Walter Williams who said that the opportunity to try should be equal for everybody. And we, as Americans, have done a very good job in breaking down all institutional barriers that prevent anybody from trying. We have done a very good job in providing the opportunities. And the government can help with that. But nobody, not the government nor anybody else, can make somebody seize the opportunity that is available to them.

    As Rocky Balboa meant in his speech: the person who believes he/she is inferior, no good, not capable, or chooses to succumb to victimization instead of rising above it, is doomed to be inferior, incapable, a victim their whole life. So a government who constantly tells a whole demographic of people that they are doomed to be inferior, incapable, victims unless big brother helps them out, has consigned those people to inferiority, inability, and victimization for generations. It is criminal. It should not stand. And if you are going to demand reparations from anybody, demand them from those who demand that we continue those indefensible policies.
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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    yep. discrimination for all.
    I wonder if women on the whole welcome your view? Or any minority for that matter.

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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    And we SHOULD discriminate.
    This suggests fair discrimination. What he mentioned suggested unfair discrimination. Unless you believe white males are just plain superior to everyone else. Is that the position.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    I'm Irish American.. wheres my reparations for the way people treated my ancestors in the 1800's? ... Most even thought worse of us than the African Americans... see the problem with paying for something that happened to someone 100+ years ago?
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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    This suggests fair discrimination. What he mentioned suggested unfair discrimination. Unless you believe white males are just plain superior to everyone else. Is that the position.
    Sometimes a white male will be superior to everyone else in something. Sometimes a black one-legged dyslectic lesbian who is an ex-WAC will be superior to everyone else in something.

    Standards that represent excellence in sports should not be lowered for the white guy who can't meet them even though the majority of those who meet the standards are black. Standards that represent excellence in police work or fire fighting or combat readiness should not be lowered because almost all the people who can meet them happen to be guys. Standards that represent excellence in academia should not be lowered because there is an over-representation of Asians who attain them.

    Everybody should have opportunity to compete. But we diminish everybody if we lower standards to accommodate those who can't meet them no matter what their race, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, or whatever. The only 'fair' society is one that demands excellence but attaches no more importance to skin color than it does eye color or hair color.
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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    And we SHOULD discriminate. We should ALL strive to be as bright, competent, capable, skilled, able, and qualified to achieve our goals as we can. And the brightest, most competent, most capable, most skilled, most able, and most qualified should be moved to the head of the line in all things--otherwise we diminish us all.

    As I previously posted, I believe it was Walter Williams who said that the opportunity to try should be equal for everybody. And we, as Americans, have done a very good job in breaking down all institutional barriers that prevent anybody from trying. We have done a very good job in providing the opportunities. And the government can help with that. But nobody, not the government nor anybody else, can make somebody seize the opportunity that is available to them.

    As Rocky Balboa meant in his speech: the person who believes he/she is inferior, no good, not capable, or chooses to succumb to victimization instead of rising above it, is doomed to be inferior, incapable, a victim their whole life. So a government who constantly tells a whole demographic of people that they are doomed to be inferior, incapable, victims unless big brother helps them out, has consigned those people to inferiority, inability, and victimization for generations. It is criminal. It should not stand. And if you are going to demand reparations from anybody, demand them from those who demand that we continue those indefensible policies.
    if you didn't check it I was being sarcastic to B posts.

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