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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Think legacy.
    You do not know the results of handing out reparations....they could be more harmful than beneficial: socially, financially, culturally,ethically.

    It would raise new issues....can you predict them? Resentment is certainly one thing that would surface....what impact would that have on the future of the country and of race relations?
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    No what I'm saying is that I'm wasting my breath, and sometimes you have to leave things to real higher powers to sort things out.
    So then you do not support reparations?
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Well let's see. Thomas Sowell descended from slaves and grew up under segregation and went through the same rebellious years that many youths do. He had to drop out of 9th grade due to financial difficulties and go to work doing menial odd jobs just to feed himself. He finished highschool by going to night classes and after a stint in the military managed to graduate with honors from some prestigious universities. How is his social history limited any more than anybody else's?

    His point is that he is NOT the exception but his numbers are legion among black people who have managed to own and run businesses, achieve acclaim in the entertainment and sports industries, who have achieved success as academics, lawyers, doctors, scientists, and in elective office despite being descended from slaves and growing up amidst racial prejudices and segregation. And most who have done so have done it the hard way--they earned what they have and have merited what they have achieved by seizing and utilizing opportunity wherever they found it.

    But government policy that encourages black people to see themselves as the oppressed, as the disadvantaged, as victims of slavery and that discourages all the best things that help people of all cultures and ethnic groups and races to succeed has consigned whole sub groups of black people to crushing poverty and believing there is no way out of it for them unless the government does it for them.

    And for the government to keep promising it will do it for them so they will keep voting the same people in, and then the government continuing the same failed policies that have created the situation, is criminal. It is those politicians we should look to for any reparations that are due living people.
    Yes, yes, yes. Nice fellow. But not the only voice. And it is a mistake to think government encouraging perception us at all real. You have to climb a mountain of real issues before government even gets into the discussion.

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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Van Basten View Post
    Eh, no.
    Eh, yes.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    You do not know the results of handing out reparations....they could be more harmful than beneficial: socially, financially, culturally,ethically.

    It would raise new issues....can you predict them? Resentment is certainly one thing that would surface....what impact would that have on the future of the country and of race relations?
    Did you read my opening post? I voted no for reparations. I said something else entirely.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Did you read my opening post? I voted no for reparations. I said something else entirely.
    Well I wondered because you answered the question of purpose with 'legacy'.
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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Well I wondered because you answered the question of purpose with 'legacy'.
    Yes, as, because there is a history deserving of discussion on what can be done effectively. It is historically accurate to say whites benefitted, and a lasting benefit, from slavery, and that blacks were held back in a lasting way. Not only was there no plan to help equalize the situation at the point of being freed, we spend about a hundred more years overtly stacking the deck against them after slavery. Reparations won't fix that. But neither will pretending it's all fixed now.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yes, as, because there is a history deserving of discussion on what can be done effectively. It is historically accurate to say whites benefitted, and a lasting benefit, from slavery, and that blacks were held back in a lasting way. Not only was there no plan to help equalize the situation at the point of being freed, we spend about a hundred more years overtly stacking the deck against them after slavery. Reparations won't fix that. But neither will pretending it's all fixed now.

    Agreed. But pretending that the govt and many many Americans did not make efforts to equalize the playing field in recent decades helps nothing either. (Not that you did so).
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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Agreed. But pretending that the govt and many many Americans did not make efforts to equalize the playing field in recent decades helps nothing either. (Not that you did so).
    Some effort was made during civil rights. But largely inadequate.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do you believe that America should pay reparations to African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Some effort was made during civil rights. But largely inadequate.
    I'm not aware of any programs or policies being curtailed or ended. Some probably have, but many continue.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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