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    Re: Freed US soldier celebrated Xmas, played Badminton with Captors.....

    Here is what the NY Post says:

    Bergdahl’s parents, who had lobbied continuously for his *release, had not seen him by Saturday night, but intimated that he faces an arduous recovery from his ordeal.

    Bergdahl is speaking in what appears to be Pashto, said his dad, Bob Bergdahl. It was not clear whether his son can still even speak English, Bob said.

    When the father spoke to his son — for the first time in five worried years — it was to say both in Pashto and English, “I am your father, Bowe.” The bizarre tale of America’s last known POW | New York Post

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    Re: Freed US soldier celebrated Xmas, played Badminton with Captors.....

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    We've started negotiating with terrorists *behind the backs of Congress. A clear breaking of the law.

    Also, we have a Marine in Mexico who is being imprisoned that the FedGov is doing nothing about while we trade terrorists for a sympathizer in Pakistan.
    Well, I mean, the guy in Mexico is a totally different situation. He broke the law, and he's in prison. Surely you don't think Americans should be exempt from other countries' laws? That would set an awful precedent!

    As for Bergdahl being a sympathiser, I think it's absurd. Where's your evidence? That he had human interaction with his captors, who are also normal people? That he played badminton with them?

    If you think captured soldiers just repeat their dog-tag ID over and over again for five years in captivity, you've been playing too many WWII videogames.

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    Re: Freed US soldier celebrated Xmas, played Badminton with Captors.....

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    This is probably a forlorn hope, but let's not rush to judgment just yet.
    Mornin NB. Here is some background on this. The deal has been in the making for some time. What Team BO is saying about Bergdahl is BS. Check this out and the date. Oh and this isn't the first time we have agreed to release prisoners. Just the first time from Guantanamo.

    This is being done for political reasons.....as even Team BO knows he walked away from his post.



    U.S. seeks prisoner swap with Taliban to free Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl.....


    In an effort to free American captive Bowe Bergdahl before the bulk of U.S. forces leave Afghanistan this year, the Obama administration has decided to try to resume talks with the Taliban and sweeten an offer to trade Taliban prisoners held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, for the Army sergeant, current and former officials said.

    To refresh the American offer, which has been on the table for more than two years, senior officials from the White House, the Pentagon, the State Department and other agencies decided within the past month to allow the simultaneous release of all five men. Taliban representatives had objected to the previous plan to release the prisoners by ones or twos as a test of Taliban and Qatari intermediaries’ ability to make sure the men did not return to militancy.

    Two people familiar with the decision stressed that it was the Taliban that broke off negotiations nearly two years ago and that the U.S. door to talks has been open since. The renewed offer has not been formally made, and no State Department or other officials have immediate plans to travel to Doha, Qatar, where any contact facilitated by the Qatari government would take place.

    The mid-January decision by officials at the level of deputy secretary would confine any new talks to the prisoner issue. Negotiations would not attempt wider engagement with the Taliban on a host of issues related to the future of Afghanistan. U.S. officials had once hoped to use the prisoner exchange as a means to build confidence for those larger discussions, which would also have involved the Afghan government. Now, the United States is primarily focused on getting Bergdahl home.

    Bergdahl, an Army infantryman assigned to a unit from Alaska, was taken captive after walking off his base in the eastern province of Paktika, a decision that confounded his comrades and commanders in Afghanistan. The U.S. military launched a massive manhunt, fearing it would be nearly impossible to find him if his captors smuggled him into Pakistan. The Taliban soon took credit for capturing him and offered to release him in exchange for $1 million and 21 Afghan prisoners.

    The Taliban broke off talks before they ever really began in 2012, and an effort to resurrect negotiations between the Taliban and the Afghan government last year ended in an embarrassing shambles. A political office promised to the Taliban was readied in Doha but closed two days after it opened in June amid a row over the raising of a flag the Taliban used when it ruled Afghanistan prior to the 2001 U.S. invasion.

    Taliban representatives remain in Doha, and the office is a de facto political headquarters.....snip~

    U.S. seeks prisoner swap with Taliban to free Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl - The Washington Post
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    Last edited by MMC; 06-02-14 at 11:06 AM.

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    Re: Freed US soldier celebrated Xmas, played Badminton with Captors.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Smartmouthwoman View Post
    Now that we've started negotiating with terrorists, no American is safe. 5 bad asses for one idiot. Sounds like another Obama bad decision.
    Imagine how you could have partied if a video showing him having his head sawed off with a knife had shown up? There'd be a horde outside the White House with torches and pitchforks.
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    Re: Freed US soldier celebrated Xmas, played Badminton with Captors.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    Well, I mean, the guy in Mexico is a totally different situation. He broke the law, and he's in prison. Surely you don't think Americans should be exempt from other countries' laws? That would set an awful precedent!

    As for Bergdahl being a sympathiser, I think it's absurd. Where's your evidence? That he had human interaction with his captors, who are also normal people? That he played badminton with them?

    If you think captured soldiers just repeat their dog-tag ID over and over again for five years in captivity, you've been playing too many WWII videogames.


    What evidence? You mean when he walked off Post. Its been reported since 2009. He just walked off. Any MS Media source covered it. They do have a timeline on him. You don't think that with all reporting that he walked off. That the Press didn't speak to those whom knew?

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    Re: Freed US soldier celebrated Xmas, played Badminton with Captors.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    What evidence? You mean when he walked off Post. Its been reported since 2009. He just walked off. Any MS Media source covered it. They do have a timeline on him. You don't think that with all reporting that he walked off. That the Press didn't speak to those whom knew?
    I fail to see how that makes him a sympathiser with the Taleban cause. It only makes him probably guilty of going AWOL, for what reason is as yet unclear.

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    Re: Freed US soldier celebrated Xmas, played Badminton with Captors.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    I fail to see how that makes him a sympathiser with the Taleban cause. It only makes him probably guilty of going AWOL, for what reason is as yet unclear.
    Who says he is a sympathizer.....he is a deserter. You do know what Desertion is, Right? I haven't heard any accusing of him being a sympathizer. Unless they discover something with his re-intergration training.

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    Re: Freed US soldier celebrated Xmas, played Badminton with Captors.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Who says he is a sympathizer.....he is a deserter. You do know what Desertion is, Right? I haven't heard any accusing of him being a sympathizer. Unless they discover something with his re-intergration training.
    YOU just said that. I'll quote for you:

    "while we trade terrorists for a sympathizer in Pakistan."

    Did you, or did you not say that?

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    Re: Freed US soldier celebrated Xmas, played Badminton with Captors.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    YOU just said that. I'll quote for you:

    "while we trade terrorists for a sympathizer in Pakistan."

    Did you, or did you not say that?

    Really .....you need to go back and look again. I never said anything about Bergdahl being a sympathizer. Show me which Post. As I don't see it.

    I said he was a Deserter. Just like I did in the other thread on him. Nothing has changed.....so please do show me where I said he was a sympathizer.

    Also.....now that you know that none are saying anything about him being a Sympathizer. What do you have to say about the Desertion that was reported by Most MS Media sources. All that is left to do.....is to take him to USMCJ. So that the guilty verdict can be read and the sentence met out.

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    Re: Freed US soldier celebrated Xmas, played Badminton with Captors.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Really .....you need to go back and look again. I never said anything about Bergdahl being a sympathizer. Show me which Post. As I don't see it.

    I said he was a Deserter. Just like I did in the other thread on him. Nothing has changed.....so please do show me where I said he was a sympathizer.

    Also.....now that you know that none are saying anything about him being a Sympathizer. What do you have to say about the Desertion that was reported by Most MS Media sources. All that is left to do.....is to take him to USMCJ. So that the guilty verdict can be read and the sentence met out.
    Actually, on closer inspection, it was not you who made that comment, but rather WCH. Three letter names, eh? Anyway, my mistake.

    As for the desertion, that may well be the case. I couldn't say.

    My main issue with some people in this thread is that they appear to disapprove of Bergdahl's human interaction with his captors, including learning their language, drinking their tea and playing badminton with them.

    To me, this is an absurd, xenophobic and hateful stance to take.

    The desertion is another matter entirely.

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